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Official text of Pope Benedict XVI's Homily for the Chrism Mass
Vatican Radio ^ | April 9, 2009 | Benedict XVI

Posted on 04/09/2009 10:09:51 AM PDT by ELS

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To: Dutchboy88

***Mark, we are the ones that believe the truth rather than that man-made fabrication from the Vatican. ***

You have not indicated that you follow the Truth of Christ; rather, you use the same words that come from those who create their theologies.

Are you different than they?

***They call us Christians and you Catholics.***

Who are they? Christ created the Catholic Church; do you put more stock in the mythical ‘they’ than in Christ as many of your compatriots do?


61 posted on 04/10/2009 2:56:08 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Petronski

Always noticed your aberrant theology, Pete.

I Peter 2:6-8
“For in Scripture it says:
‘See I lay a stone in Zion, a chosen and precious cornerstone, and the one who trusts in HIM will never be put to shame.”
Now to you who believe, this is stone is precious. But to those who do not believe,
‘The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone,’ and
‘A stone that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall.’
They stumble because they disobey the message-which is also what they were destined for.”

Ouch. The Rock and predestination all in one package.


62 posted on 04/10/2009 3:01:27 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88

Scripture refers to Christ as The Rock, but Christ Himself refers to Peter as the rock.

The idea that your quote supports Calvin’s sick notions of predestination is ludicrous.


63 posted on 04/10/2009 3:04:45 PM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Petronski

Christ refers to the statement Peter made, “You are Petros and upon this petra, I will build my church.” Masculine and feminine genders. You may not have taken any koine Greek Pete, but the rest of us know the situation doesn’t support the Vatican. Sorry your tower of Babel is built on sand.


64 posted on 04/10/2009 3:12:33 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88
You may not have taken any koine Greek...

There is no such distinction in Koine Greek, boy. Only in Attic Greek.

65 posted on 04/10/2009 3:13:35 PM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Dutchboy88
And in any event, boy, Christ was speaking Aramaic, not Greek of any flavor.

No, there's no such distinction in Aramaic either.

66 posted on 04/10/2009 3:15:14 PM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Dutchboy88
Masculine and feminine genders

So?

67 posted on 04/10/2009 3:15:26 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Petronski

Go read your lexicon. Wait, does the Vatican allow that now? You may want to thank men like Tyndale that lost their lives to your Roman thugs. You would still be groveling to the big hats to get a crumb of their sanitized theology thrown to you were it not for the brave men that would cowtow to the Pope. And we are not interested in joining you in the chains you love.


68 posted on 04/10/2009 3:17:20 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88

Tyndale’s translation is laughably bad, and self-servingly sow, boy.


69 posted on 04/10/2009 3:18:23 PM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Petronski

Yes of course, sow should be so.


70 posted on 04/10/2009 3:19:10 PM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Petronski

Go read the texts, if Rome will let you. The Greek is there for anyone to look at. The language spoken was Aramaic, the texts were written in Greek.


71 posted on 04/10/2009 3:20:13 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88
Searching for errors in the Tyndale King James Bible is like searching for water in the ocean.   --St. Thomas More
72 posted on 04/10/2009 3:21:32 PM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Dutchboy88
The language spoken was Aramaic...

Aramaic has no such gender distinction.

73 posted on 04/10/2009 3:22:38 PM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Dutchboy88
...if Rome will let you.

Why would the capital municipality of Italy try to prevent me from reading the Bible?

74 posted on 04/10/2009 3:23:22 PM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Petronski

So says some guy named More


75 posted on 04/10/2009 3:23:50 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88

Speaking of Greek, the word St. Peter uses in 1 Peter is lithos, not petra, except in “rock of scandal”, where it is indeed “petra”. Not sure what you are trying to prove, but you are not proving it.


76 posted on 04/10/2009 3:23:52 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Dutchboy88
Christ refers to the statement Peter made, “You are Petros and upon this petra, I will build my church.”

Are you claiming Peter spoke these words?

77 posted on 04/10/2009 3:25:00 PM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: annalex

Pete was saying the Rock was Peter and I pointed out that this is not the case. But, you are ordinarily behind the curve. We’ll help you keep up.


78 posted on 04/10/2009 3:25:13 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88

You’ll pardon me if I value his view more than yours.


79 posted on 04/10/2009 3:26:03 PM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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Pete was saying the Rock was Peter...

Wrong again, boy. Christ said the Rock is Peter.

80 posted on 04/10/2009 3:26:45 PM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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