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To: NYer
I also understood that some people who repent from these sins might be purified on earth through their sufferings.

For your discernment, ping!

There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood. Romans 3:23-25

Suffering isn't needed to purify that which Christ's blood has already cleansed ... so I'm all through discerning now, thanks.

5 posted on 11/22/2008 3:32:35 PM PST by tx_eggman (I own two rare photos. Houdini as he locks his keys in his car and Norman Rockwell beating a child.)
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To: tx_eggman
Better do some more discerning as you wade through what you foolishly think is nothing but a smorgasbord.

"If we suffer, we shall also reign with him. If we deny him, he will also deny us." 2 Timothy 2:12

"For this is thankworthy, if for conscience towards God, a man endure sorrows, suffering wrongfully. For what glory is it, if committing sin, and being buffeted for it, you endure? But if doing well you suffer patiently; this is thankworthy before God. For unto this are you called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving you an example that you should follow His steps." 1 Peter 2:19-21

"But if also you suffer any thing for justice' sake, blessed are ye. And be not afraid of their fear, and be not troubled." 1 Peter 3:14

"For it is better doing well (if such be the will of God) to suffer, than doing ill." 1 Peter 3:17

"Wherefore let them also that suffer according to the will of God, commend their souls in good deeds to the faithful Creator." 1 Peter 4:19

26 posted on 11/23/2008 8:41:35 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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