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1 posted on 11/22/2008 3:17:35 PM PST by NYer
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For your discernment, ping!


2 posted on 11/22/2008 3:18:55 PM PST by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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My favorite is Dante’s purgatorio.


4 posted on 11/22/2008 3:29:59 PM PST by Mercat (God doesn't call me to be successful. God calls me to be faithful. Mother Teresa)
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PURGATORY -

Matt. 5:26,18:34; Luke 12:58-59 – Jesus teaches us, “Come to terms with your opponent or you will be handed over to the judge and thrown into prison. You will not get out until you have paid the last penny.” The word “opponent” (antidiko) is likely a reference to the devil (see the same word for devil in 1 Pet. 5:8) who is an accuser against man (c.f. Job 1.6-12; Zech. 3.1; Rev. 12.10), and God is the judge. If we have not adequately dealt with satan and sin in this life, we will be held in a temporary state called a prison, and we won’t get out until we have satisfied our entire debt to God. This “prison” is purgatory where we will not get out until the last penny is paid.

1 Cor. 15:29-30 - Paul mentions people being baptized on behalf of the dead, in the context of atoning for their sins (people are baptized on the dead’s behalf so the dead can be raised). These people cannot be in heaven because they are still with sin, but they also cannot be in hell because their sins can no longer be atoned for. They are in purgatory. These verses directly correspond to 2 Macc. 12:44-45 which also shows specific prayers for the dead, so that they may be forgiven of their sin.

PRAYING FOR THE SOULS IN PURGATORY -

Baruch 3:4 - Baruch asks the Lord to hear the prayers of the dead of Israel. They can intercede on behalf of the people of God.

2 Macc. 15:12-16 – the high priest Onias and the prophet Jeremiah were deceased for centuries, and yet interact with the living Judas Maccabeas and pray for the holy people on earth.

Rev. 5:8 - the prayers of the saints (on heaven and earth) are presented to God by the angels and saints in heaven. This shows that the saints intercede on our behalf before God, and it also demonstrates that our prayers on earth are united with their prayers in heaven. (The “24 elders” are said to refer to the people of God – perhaps the 12 tribes and 12 apostles - and the “four living creatures” are said to refer to the angels.)


6 posted on 11/22/2008 3:32:37 PM PST by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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I wonder if they play Iron Maiden in hell. If they do, it might not be so bad...

=D


7 posted on 11/22/2008 3:33:01 PM PST by wastedyears (Every FReeper is on Obama's Black List. He will try to have us all "taken care of." Mark my words)
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Many are called..Few are chosen.


8 posted on 11/22/2008 3:34:21 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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Why didn't he describe purgatory better. My vision of it is it's exactly like Detroit or Colombia SC with no chance of leaving.
9 posted on 11/22/2008 3:35:00 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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[Funereal organ music plays]

DEATH
The Great Enigma

What happens when we die?
What is on the other side?

Now mankind has startling new evidence from people declared clinically "dead" who have returned to tell of their experience.

Their descriptions are so similar... so vivid... that they may change mankind's view of life, death and survival forever.

LIFE AFTER DEATH
a report from the other side


[ominous woodwind-sounding music builds]

Man: I can remember... the nurses... saying something about "code pink," and then clearly I remember... one of the doctors saying "he's gone." ...I couldn't understand how they could be so worried, when... I felt so happy to be outside of my body, and so peaceful. It was fabulous. Everything was bathed in a, an eerie white light... suddenly I found myself in a huge, white room... where I had to take a number and be seated.

Man 2: I must have died, because I recognized my body was rising up, like an elevator. And I was passing through these rounds of light, and time, and space, and all of a sudden I came to this area which was filled blindingly with light and energy and space... and I had to take a number and sit down.

Woman: I was flying down this... corridor, with this... blue light, and... um, I ended up in this room where I had to reach up, and take a number, and then sit down.



[a mechanical sign reads NOW SERVING 32. The digits turns over to read 33.]

13 posted on 11/22/2008 3:55:53 PM PST by Alex Murphy ( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
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The sins that convicted them were mainly abortion, homosexuality, sins of the flesh, euthanasia, hatefulness, lack of forgiveness and sacrilege.

Sounds like the democrat party platform...

14 posted on 11/22/2008 4:03:41 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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Meanwhile...

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/22/video-the-obligatory-freaky-deaky-edmonton-meteor-clips/


16 posted on 11/22/2008 6:40:02 PM PST by AliVeritas (Pray, Pray, Pray)
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Bookmark for later reading.


17 posted on 11/22/2008 6:43:07 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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This account isn't much different than the others I've read over the years. The message is the same - keep your soul clean, take advantage of Penance and absolution, pray for the souls in Purgatory, etc. In the last six years, there's been a big difference in my life with this approach. I whole-heartedly recommend it.
19 posted on 11/22/2008 7:09:11 PM PST by Desdemona (Tolerance of grave evil is NOT a Christian virtue (I choose virtue. Values change too often).)
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Apparently this website lists the rest of the story:

http://jopetsukisuki.multiply.com/journal/item/19/A_PRIEST_WHO_SAW_HEAVEN_HELL_AND_PURGATORY.._The_death_experience_of_Father_Jose_Maniyangat.._?&item_id=19&view:replies=threaded


20 posted on 11/22/2008 7:52:49 PM PST by bradthebuilder (War is peace; Ignorance is strength; Freedom is slavery)
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bttt


38 posted on 12/18/2008 4:00:34 PM PST by diamond6 (Is SIDS preventable? www.Stopsidsnow.com)
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