[Cronos]

au contraire, mon ami, the one's I've known who keep quoting "have you been saved?" and "I will wipe the dust off my shoes when I leave" have generally not been part of the Apostolic Church.

And while denominations may have various thinkings, that doesn't correspond to the Apostolic Church

[Quix]

It’s been abundantly demonstrated from the Vatican’s own docs as well as conflicting posts hereon

that the Vatican never has really spoken with one consistent homogeneous voice.

It’s a farce of a pretense to pretend it has.

Alas, that’s essentially true of EVERY large bureaucratic edifice/institution of any significant age, at all—particularly a RELIGIOUS one.