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Our Guardian Angels [Ecumenical]
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Posted on 08/05/2008 10:34:13 AM PDT by NYer

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To: mware
She was one of the first to acknowledge Christ as the Messiah.

Yes, that's true. St. Martha's confession of Christ is a very beautiful passage.

21 posted on 08/05/2008 2:56:18 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Wars kill soldiers; governments kill civilians." ~ Wayne LaPierre)
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To: mware; Tax-chick
St. Martha is one of my saints.

St. Anthony of Padua is the other. He's my brave big brother who stoops kindly to listen to his pesky little sister.


22 posted on 08/05/2008 3:32:45 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: NYer
Guardian Angel from heaven so bright,
Watching beside me to lead me aright,
Fold thy wings round me, and guard me with love,
Softly sing songs to me of heaven above. Amen.

That was the first stanza of a hymn we used to sing in grammar school!

Refrain:

Beautiful Angel, my guardian so mild,
Tenderly guide me, for I am thy child.
Beautiful Angel, my guardian so mild,
Tenderly guide me, for I am thy child.

Verse 2

Angel so holy, whom God sends to me,
Sinful and lowly, my guardian to be,
Wilt thou not cherish the child of thy care?
Let me not perish, my trust is thy care!

23 posted on 08/05/2008 3:46:22 PM PDT by maryz
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To: maryz

What a beautiful song and prayer! Thank you so much for posting those to this thread.


24 posted on 08/05/2008 4:08:19 PM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: Salvation
No such thing as accidents or coincidences with God.

You are absolutely right, Salvation! God is in total control. When it is our time to go home, nothing will impede that journey.

25 posted on 08/05/2008 4:12:43 PM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: DieHard the Hunter; Tax-chick; Salvation
I have a dumb question: how do you know who your Guardian Angel is? And how do you know who your Patron Saint is?

To 'know' your guardian angel, you must begin with the belief that one has been assigned to you. As freeper 'tax-chick' noted, some people assign names to their gurardian angels. Scripture tells us that we humans have all been given a name by God so I presume that is true for our guardian angels. There are some who ask their guardian angels to 'reveal' their names and claim to have understood them, in dreams. Their names and responsibilities are known to God. That's sufficient for me. I am just very grateful to acknowledge my angel, a constant companion on this journey through the darkness of life. At the end of the Chaplet to the Archangel Michael, there are a series of prayers to honor the 'Archangels', followed by an 'Our Father' in honor of "my own guardian angel". Considering all that their job entails, a simple prayer seems rather mediocre. Surely those who "light and guard" and "rule and guide", deserve much more.

As for your patron saint, it was the ancient tradition of the Catholic Church to name a child after a saint, at Baptism. Today, that naming convention seems to have slipped to the dustbin of antiquity, as parents go for the 'unique' and even 'invented' name, that will set their child apart from the others. Personally, I find this concept to be debilitating. Patron saints, like guardian angels, watch over those entrusted to their care. With my Confirmation students, I insist that they research and choose the name of a saint, albeit an arcane one from nearly 2000 years ago. Those saints then become their 'patron saints'.

So, in answer to your question, look at the name you were given at Baptism by your parents and then research that saint to learn more about them. What about the name you chose at Confirmation? Here is yet one more opportunity to gain some understanding of the saint whose name you chose. Failing that, you may 'adopt' a saint and make them your patron. I am very devoted to St. Francis of Assisi but do not bear his name. I carry it in my heart.

Ultimately, it's all up to you! Instead of watching tv, pick up a book on the saints, read through their life stories and find one whose personal life mirrors yours. All the saints are ready and willing to be there for us and help us through the difficult passages of life.

26 posted on 08/05/2008 4:33:12 PM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: NYer

Did you ever figure out what you had done, to deserve this medicinal punishment that was inflicted on you?


27 posted on 08/05/2008 4:52:46 PM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: NYer

I’ve told the story before but a little girl I know who was dying was laying in her mother’s arms just struggling to breath and all of a sudden she sat up and told her mother that they needed to pray. She insisted that they kneel and said that prayer just a few hours before she died.


28 posted on 08/05/2008 4:53:33 PM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: Frank Sheed

Do you believe it was medicinal punishment for some infraction?


29 posted on 08/05/2008 4:53:57 PM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: NYer; DieHard the Hunter

My son Bill was assigned to write a composition on the saint he was named for one year. “William” is the name of several saints, so we read about them in the Catholic Encyclopedia and discovered that the feast of St. William of Paris, a reform-minded Bishop of the late middle ages, is Bill’s birthday!


30 posted on 08/05/2008 5:10:26 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Wars kill soldiers; governments kill civilians." ~ Wayne LaPierre)
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To: NYer

You are most welcome.


31 posted on 08/05/2008 5:28:50 PM PDT by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: stuartcr
It's not punishment for some wrong.

It is what appears to be punishment at the time, but was actually designed by God to help the person.

NYer's experience is a perfect example. At the time, you're asking, "Why is this happening to me? What did I do to deserve this awful thing?" Only later do you find out why.

32 posted on 08/05/2008 5:39:03 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: NYer
My daughter chose St. Martin of Tours for her Confirmation saint. She loves him dearly.

We were in an Italian restaurant and she saw his picture on the wall (he's the patron of innkeepers among others). She told the proprietor that he was her Confirmation saint, and he insisted on taking the picture off the wall and presenting it to her!! She was thrilled!

33 posted on 08/05/2008 5:40:41 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

I was asking because (d) called it medicinal punishment.


34 posted on 08/05/2008 6:41:10 PM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: stuartcr
You have to think of "punishment" in more of the general sense of the Latin "poena" - pain.

Much confusion results from too-literal translations of Latin, plus of course the alterations in English from the 16th and 17th centuries to today.

Lots of material still being read today originated in Latin or back in the early days of Modern English (the Catholic Church has been around for awhile.)

35 posted on 08/05/2008 6:46:20 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother
I just got home from our weekly novena to St Anthony and the Blessed Mother.

We have a brief snack and than do scripture study for Sunday's Mass.

36 posted on 08/05/2008 7:11:31 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E. That spells free. freerepublic.com baby)
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To: NYer

St. Michael the Archangel defend us in the day of battle. Be our safeguard against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him we humbly pray, and do thou oh prince of the heavenly host, by the power of God, cast into hell satan and all the other evil spirits who prowl through the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen


37 posted on 08/05/2008 7:17:49 PM PDT by bradthebuilder (War is peace; Ignorance is strength; Freedom is slavery)
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To: stuartcr; NYer

I believe it was “medicinal” punishment for any number of past sins.

I believe it was “punishment” in the sense that “at the time,” it seemed like “a curse” or a “bad break.”

I believe it was “of God” because it saved her life.

God’s ways are not our ways. Angels are sentient beings far higher in intellect than we (they were given only one test: “friend or foe?”). That is straight from Frank Sheed’s “Theology and Sanity.”

Nuff said.


38 posted on 08/05/2008 7:25:34 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Fr. V. R. Capodanno, Lt, USN, Catholic Chaplain. 3rd/5th, 1st Marine Div., FMF. MOH, posthumously.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Mother, it is good to see your intelligence percolate this board.

Pax et bonum!

F


39 posted on 08/05/2008 7:27:20 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Fr. V. R. Capodanno, Lt, USN, Catholic Chaplain. 3rd/5th, 1st Marine Div., FMF. MOH, posthumously.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

What a marvelous story! I will treasure that!

My patron was “Michael the Archangel.” My family was filled with police and never one was harmed. He is “POWER” (as Fr. Corapi would say in his stellar bass!). I pray to him daily the Leonine prayer.


40 posted on 08/05/2008 7:31:30 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Fr. V. R. Capodanno, Lt, USN, Catholic Chaplain. 3rd/5th, 1st Marine Div., FMF. MOH, posthumously.)
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