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The Complete Bible: Why Catholics Have Seven More Books [Ecumenical]
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Posted on 07/02/2008 1:51:40 PM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 07/02/2008 1:51:42 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

A timely topic that often surfaces in the forum.


2 posted on 07/02/2008 1:52:39 PM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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Excellent article - I have always been curious why some Books were removed, while others weren’t. Thanks.


3 posted on 07/02/2008 1:58:16 PM PDT by RabidBartender
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In other news, muslims still don't care which Bible they burn or what denomination of Christian they behead. Warning
4 posted on 07/02/2008 2:00:49 PM PDT by PeterFinn ("I will stand with the Muslims" - Barack Hussein Obama)
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From a story about those who attempted to translate the Catholic Bible into other languages I watched on TV the other night.

http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history/


5 posted on 07/02/2008 2:13:51 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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The Septuagint was commissioned by the Jewish priests, and held as valid until the Council of Jamnia-around AD 100.

You see, there were some inconvenient prophecies fulfilled via Christ, so some of those books they considered part of their canon for almost 400 years just had to disappear.

“The Catholic Old Testament follows the Alexandrian canon of the Septuagint,[3] the Old Testament which was translated into Greek around 250 B.C.

The Protestant Reformers follows the Palestinian canon[4] of Scripture (39 books), which was not officially recognized by Jews until around 100 A.D.”


6 posted on 07/02/2008 2:20:20 PM PDT by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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I read 1 Maccabbees to the Offspring last month. It's one of their favorites, and it fit right in with the "Greek and Persian Wars" course I was listening to on CD.
7 posted on 07/02/2008 2:21:04 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Tax-chick's House of Herpets. Watch your extremities - we're hungry!)
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Thank you for this article....like others, here, I have often wondered about this...


8 posted on 07/02/2008 2:23:42 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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"The Catholic Old Testament follows the Alexandrian canon of the Septuagint,[3] the Old Testament which was translated into Greek around 250 B.C."

Current scholarship has debunked the idea of a "BC" Septuigant. It is beyond a doubt the 5th column of Origen's 2nd century Hexapla.

9 posted on 07/02/2008 2:26:00 PM PDT by Hebrewbrother (Dissent - The Highest Form Of Patriotism.....source unknown...BTDMIAS!)
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To: fetal heart beats by 21st day
Succinct summary that avoids th pejoratives and “Protestant bashing” of the article. Congrats!!!
10 posted on 07/02/2008 2:26:29 PM PDT by ricmc2175
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Current scholarship has debunked the idea of a "BC" Septuigant. It is beyond a doubt the 5th column of Origen's 2nd century Hexapla.

Well, that proves it.

11 posted on 07/02/2008 2:29:43 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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ad majorem Dei Gloriam


12 posted on 07/02/2008 2:30:46 PM PDT by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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Hey, quit stealing my tagline! :-P


13 posted on 07/02/2008 2:37:39 PM PDT by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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Ahh, we should multiply it.


14 posted on 07/02/2008 2:41:20 PM PDT by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: Hebrewbrother

and you have the evidence to back this up?


15 posted on 07/02/2008 2:52:15 PM PDT by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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read later - sola Scriptura!


16 posted on 07/02/2008 2:56:12 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: fetal heart beats by 21st day
The Septuagint was commissioned by the Jewish priests, and held as valid until the Council of Jamnia-around AD 100.

A small correction....if you please?

The Septuagint was commissioned by Ptolemy and seventy "Alexandrian" Jews took on the task of translating Hebrew to Greek. This Hellenistic influence on Judaism was not divinely inspired and even the Apostle Paul was later threatened by it [Acts 9:29].

The "Deuts" were never written in Hebrew and were simply inserted into scripture by these "Grecian Jews". The Council of Jamnia was composed of Hebrew scholars and restored the canon to what had been established by Ezra and Nehemiah after the return from Babylon.

The Apostle Paul....being an Attorney and scholar under the tutorship of Gamaliel [Acts 22:3] would never have used a Greek translation. Gamaliel [Acts 5:34] was the Grandson of the famous Hebrew scholar, Hillel.....and a Pharisee.

When Paul asks Timothy to bring his scrolls and parchments [II Timothy 4:13] they would not have included a copy of the Grecian Septuagint.

17 posted on 07/02/2008 3:08:56 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: fetal heart beats by 21st day
You see, there were some inconvenient prophecies fulfilled via Christ, so some of those books they considered part of their canon for almost 400 years just had to disappear.

You nailed it here!

18 posted on 07/02/2008 3:10:26 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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So the line in the original article, “except those rejected by the Protestant Reformers in the 1500’s,” is basically nonsense?
19 posted on 07/02/2008 3:19:16 PM PDT by delacoert
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Wanna check on that? Judith, at least, was originally written in Hebrew, by a Jew, probably about 150 BC, according to the Jewish Encyclopedia. Makes me doubt the accuracy of your sweeping generalization.
20 posted on 07/02/2008 3:31:09 PM PDT by maryz
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