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Beginning Catholic: Church Authority In Scripture [Ecumenical]
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Posted on 06/23/2008 7:01:31 PM PDT by Salvation

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Ecumenical thread................antagonism towards other professions not permitted.

1 posted on 06/23/2008 7:01:32 PM PDT by Salvation
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Further Reading

The Acts of the Apostles (New Testament), especially chapters 1 - 15.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church covers this topic in a large section on the Church. See especially sections 748-769, 811-812, and 857-896.

There is an excellent and accessible discussion of this issue in Leo Trese's book, The Faith Explained. (This topic is addressed throughout the two chapters about the Church.)

The article "Church: Nature, Origin, and Structure of" in Our Sunday Visitor's Encyclopedia of Catholic Doctrine is another good, though brief, treatment of the subject.

The Second Vatican Council addressed this in Chapter III of its 1964 document Dogmatic Constitution on the Church (also known by its Latin title, "Lumen Gentium"). You can get a hardcopy book of the Vatican II documents, or you can read it online on the Vatican website.


2 posted on 06/23/2008 7:01:55 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Beginning Catholic: The Catholic Church's Origin [Ecumenical]

Beginning Catholic: Church Authority In Scripture [Ecumenical]

3 posted on 06/23/2008 7:04:12 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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4 posted on 06/23/2008 7:06:29 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Thank you for your concise postings. It helps me a lot.


5 posted on 06/23/2008 7:12:17 PM PDT by Ravens70
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This is 100% Correct! I just Don’t get how a Man made or a self made Religion could Ignore Christ Church he founded and will never let Fail! always a myriad of relative excuses of why Jesus Christ Church is wrong!!


6 posted on 06/23/2008 7:12:24 PM PDT by philly-d-kidder (Kuwait where the Weather is over a 120 F and we don't sweat it!! It's the sand we are afraid off!)
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Glad it helped you Ravens70!


7 posted on 06/23/2008 9:01:19 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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But you and I and many others know that Jesus Christ was NOT wrong!


8 posted on 06/23/2008 9:02:37 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Yes...


9 posted on 06/23/2008 9:13:11 PM PDT by philly-d-kidder (Kuwait where the Weather is over a 120 F and we don't sweat it!! It's the sand we are afraid off!)
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But you and I and many others know that Jesus Christ was NOT wrong!

We all know that Jesus is never wrong...But many of us know that the Catholic church generally is...

For example; Paul and Peter would never have been in Rome together...Paul is very clear that one of the rules is that one Apostle will not preach nor teach where another Apostle has staked out his claim...Paul and Peter were NOT both in Rome...

So either the Holy Scripture is wrong, or the Catholic church is wrong...And that's an easy one to figure out...

10 posted on 06/24/2008 6:49:39 AM PDT by Iscool
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We all know that Jesus is never wrong...But many of us know that the Catholic church generally is...

I completely agree with that statement. Especially having looked from the inside of the man-made institution itself.

11 posted on 06/24/2008 7:30:33 AM PDT by T Minus Four
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On This Rock
 
WAS ST. PETER IN ROME?
 
St. Peter and Rome
 
Did the Apostle Peter Ever Visit Rome?
 
Occasionally Naive and Fearful, Yet Honest and Capable of Repentance (Profile of St. Peter)
 
Saint Peter As Seen by His Successor (extraordinary document from B16 on his preaching and papacy)
 
HOMILIES PREACHED BY FATHER ALTIER ON THE FEAST OF SAINTS PETER AND PAUL
 
Peter, Witness of the Resurrection (Papal preparations for Easter 2006)
 
The Fraternal Society of St. Peter on EWTN
 
Saint Peter and the Vatican, the Legacy of the Popes
 
Saint Peter and The Vatican - Legacy of the Popes

12 posted on 06/24/2008 8:17:19 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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The Catholic Church will welcome you back at any time. Come and talk with a priest.


13 posted on 06/24/2008 8:19:05 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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No thank you, I need no mediator between me and God except Jesus. I go straight to Him.


14 posted on 06/24/2008 8:46:54 AM PDT by T Minus Four
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I will pray for you.


15 posted on 06/24/2008 9:10:49 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Exactly what has you so teed off at the Catholic Church?

Just curious.


16 posted on 06/24/2008 9:11:33 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Of course we all realize the Catholic church has reams and reams of information they have written and printed to convince you guys that Peter and Paul were both in Rome...

But the Apostle Paul says that he never went where another Apostle set up house...

So are you going to believe the Catholic church??? Or are you going to believe the Scripture; the Apostle Paul???

It’s as simple as that...


17 posted on 06/24/2008 9:20:38 AM PDT by Iscool
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What makes you think I’m teed off?


18 posted on 06/24/2008 9:21:01 AM PDT by T Minus Four
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Why?


19 posted on 06/24/2008 9:21:41 AM PDT by T Minus Four
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As to your claim that Saint Paul would never have gone to Rome, in keeping with his conviction to preach the Gospel where no one had ever been before: 1. His initial intention to go to Rome, as stated very clearly in Romans 15, was to use it as a way-station in preparation for a missionizing trip to Spain (probably the east coast of Spain); yet, even in the context of this purpose, Paul states in Romans 1 that he still had a divine calling to preach to the Christians in Rome there, too. 2. The next time(s) Paul was in Rome was not of his own volition. He was arrested and held in Rome for a while awaiting a hearing and/or execution.


20 posted on 06/24/2008 10:04:53 AM PDT by Remole
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