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1 posted on 06/02/2008 8:01:12 PM PDT by annalex
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This is the Catholic Theology for non-Catholics series.

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On Salvation Outside the Catholic Church
The Great Heresies [Open]
SALVATION PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE
JUSTIFICATION IN CATHOLIC TEACHING
Hermits and Solitaries [Ecumenical]

2 posted on 06/02/2008 8:03:03 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex

Good post. Thank you.


4 posted on 06/02/2008 8:31:05 PM PDT by informavoracious (Freedom Isn't Free)
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To: annalex; kosta50

“”But only God can forgive sins!” Well, that was the cry of the Pharisees when they saw Jesus forgive a man. But if you read Matthew’s gospel, you find out that Jesus did not forgive the sins in his divine capacity as God. He stated that the “Son of man” has authority on earth to forgive sins. And in Matthew 9:8, the crowd glorified God because, as the gospel-writer himself tells us, God had given such authority to men.

So men are instruments God uses to channel his own forgiveness. Jesus meant exactly what he said. His ministers have the power to forgive and retain sins, and my Protestant church was simply out of synch with the Bible on this point. Again, it made void the word of God by its human tradition of pretending this sacrament does not exist. In doing so, it warped the spiritual development of countless individuals.””

Interesting defense. So far as I know, the notion that the priest actually forgives sins in confession (as opposed to acting as a witness, etc with God doing the forgiving) is peculiar to the Latin Church. I don’t believe any of the particular churches in communion with Rome ascribe to it and I know Orthodoxy does not and never did. Do you know when this notion originally arose?


7 posted on 06/03/2008 3:44:24 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: annalex
Now if you had lived in Old Testament times and judged the religion of Israel by the performance of some of its priests, you would have missed out on the true religion. In the same way today, if you judge the Catholic Church by the performance of some of its priests, the same thing will happen: You will miss out on the true religion of God.

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Amen.

10 posted on 06/03/2008 4:53:11 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: annalex

Excellent post.


13 posted on 06/03/2008 7:30:58 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: All
When I was an Evangelical

Which wasn't for very long...

14 posted on 06/03/2008 7:39:55 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" -- Galatians 4:16)
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