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It appears to me that the process of apostacy continues.

We see in some circles the introduction of new ceremonies blessing same sex unions, the re-working of doctrine to fit what the world finds popular, even re-written versions of the Bible like the one embraced by the CoE that replaces 'husband' and 'wife' with 'partner' to make it gay-friendly.

In the end, all false religions will collapse under the weight of their own lies and sins.

1 posted on 05/25/2008 10:25:12 AM PDT by Grig
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To: Grig

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2 posted on 05/25/2008 10:26:22 AM PDT by Grig
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To: Grig; Petronski; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; wmfights; Forest Keeper; sandyeggo
The thoroughly apostate and utterly corrupt condition of the Church of Rome as proclaimed by its history down to the end of the fifteenth century,* was necessarily accompanied by absence of all spiritual sanctity and power whatever may have been the arrogant assumptions of the Church as to authority in spiritual affairs.

Gee, I wonder how many Catholics will come on and refute that? They would skewer any Protestant who made that claim, but for some unknown reason, they seem to all want to give the Mormons a pass.

I wonder why that is?

3 posted on 05/25/2008 10:41:24 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Grig; All
To the faithful Latter-day Saint, a concluding proof of the universal apostasy and of the absolute need of a restoration of Priesthood from the heavens will be found in the divine reply to the inquiry of the boy prophet, Joseph Smith, as to which of all the contending sects was right: "I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me; they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.'"*

Here we go. Instead of a "carpet bomb" approach to each Christian body, a 14 yo lad named Joseph Smith tries the spiritual nuke approach upon EVERY Catholic, Protestant & Orthodox believer & church.

By reposting this here, Grig stands guilty of extending this empty accusation and can now no longer claim that he is innocent of calling all the rest of us "corrupt" and what we believe as being putrid in his eyes.

For those who extend this outright lie, it betrays any supposed true motive of "outreach" or "dialogue" because the very foundation is to accuse historic Christians as apostates and corrupt, abominable believers in Christ.

23 posted on 05/25/2008 7:05:53 PM PDT by Colofornian (As the fLDS is now, the LDS once was. As the fLDS is now, the LDS will become)
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To: Grig

>> Near the end of the fifteenth century, in the reign of Ferdinand and Isabella, the court of the Inquisition, then known as the Holy Office, had been established in Spain. The prime purpose of this secret tribunal was the detection and punishment of heresy. Of this infamous institution as operative in Spain, Myers says: “The Holy Office, as the tribunal was styled, thus became the instrument of the most incredible cruelty. Thousands were burned at the stake, and tens of thousands more condemned to endure penalties scarcely less terrible. Queen Isabella, in giving her consent to the establishment of the tribunal in her dominions, was doubtless actuated by the purest religious zeal, and sincerely believed that in suppressing heresy she was discharging a simple duty, and rendering God good service. `In the love of Christ and His Maid-Mother,’ she says, `I have caused great misery. I have depopulated towns and districts, provinces and kingdoms.’ <<

Is Meyers a liar, or dumb as toast? The Holy Office refers to the Papal Inquisition, which was founded in 1230, and still exists today, known today as the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, which Benedict XVI led for many years.

Isabella’s remorse was not an admission of guilt of killing thousands, as implied, but for having expelled the 80,000 Jews of Spain; if anything her lament supports the argument that she did what she did for fear of not being able to control the vigilante mobs, rather than for hatred of the Jews.

Not that this justifies the Spanish Inquisition, — using the Edicts of Grace to gain informants is a particularly abominable corruption of what should have been confessional, for instance — but neither is it worthwhile to continue to post as truth the wild exaggerations of 19th-century polemics.


24 posted on 05/26/2008 5:26:04 AM PDT by dangus
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“In the end, all false religions will collapse under the weight of their own lies and sins. “

Sort of like the FLDS is doing right now.

WHHOOOOOooops! ! ! A little too close to home brother Grig?

Hey, I just found a great book, The History of the American Indians, written in 1775 THAT CONFIRMS the Indians are Jews! But wait, that was Before JS had his “Revelation”! Hummmm.


28 posted on 05/26/2008 2:45:28 PM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: Grig
It appears to me that the process of apostacy continues. We see in some circles....

And you are trying to tar the Christian church with THIS brush?

Shame!

30 posted on 05/26/2008 2:52:43 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Grig

[Luther was summoned before a council or “Diet” at Worms in 1521. There he openly declared for individual freedom of conscience. There is inspiration in his words: “I cannot submit my faith either to the pope or to the council, because it is as clear as the day that they have frequently erred and contradicted each other. Unless, therefore, I am convinced by the testimony of scripture, or by the clearest reasoning — unless I am persuaded by means of the passages I have quoted, — and unless they thus render my conscience bound by the word of God, I cannot and will not retract, for it is unsafe for a Christian to speak against his conscience. Here I stand, I can do no other, may God help me! Amen!”]

Everyone should realize that by the same line of reasoning, that he couldn’t find a lick of Mormon doctrine in the Bible, that he would have called the Mormons Apostates.


35 posted on 05/26/2008 3:06:28 PM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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