Posted on 04/12/2008 7:56:04 PM PDT by markomalley
CNA STAFF, Apr 12, 2008 / 02:40 am (CNA).- A newly released video of a 2007 appearance of Francis Cardinal Arinze shows the cardinal addressing the issue of Catholic politicians who support permissive abortion laws but also present themselves for Holy Communion.
Speaking in a “Question and Answer” session at gathering for Familyland USA in 2007, the cardinal said the answer to the question was so obvious that even children preparing for First Communion could answer it correctly.
In a satirical manner, Cardinal Arinze criticized a standard pro-abortion political argument.
“To the person who says, ‘Personally, I am against abortion, but then if people really want to do it I leave them free’ you can say ‘You are a member of the senate or the congress.
“‘Personally I am not in favor of shooting the whole lot of you, but if somebody else wants to shoot all of you in the senate or all of you in the congress, it’s just pro-choice for that.
“’But personally I’m not in favor.’
“That is what they are saying,” the cardinal argued.
“They are saying that personally, he is not in favor of killing these millions of children in the womb, but if others want to do it, he is pro-choice.”
Cardinal Arinze made a joking aside, saying, “And then you ask me ‘What does the Holy See do, why doesn’t the Pope send a dozen Swiss Guards to arrest them all’.”
The cardinal continued, “You may have heard about the letter that the present Holy Father, as prefect of the Congregation on the Doctrine of the Faith, sent to American bishops on that issue.
The letter, which was issued in 2002, addresses the “cultural relativism that exists today” and condemns “the opinion expressed in the public sphere that such ethical pluralism is the very condition for democracy”. It also goes on to elaborate the obligations of Catholics in this cultural situation, focusing on life issues.
“So the matter is very clear,” Cardinal Arinze said.
The cardinal noted that he is often asked if a politician who votes for abortion should receive Holy Communion.
He said his reply was, “Do you really need a cardinal from the Vatican to answer that?”
“Get the children for first communion and say to them, somebody votes for the killing of unborn babies, and says, I voted for that, I will vote for that every time and these babies are killed, not one or two, but in millions, and that person says I am a practicing Catholic, should that person receive communion next Sunday?
“The children for first communion will answer that at the drop of a hat. You don’t need a cardinal to answer that.”
But yet Libs have a hard time comprehending this...
Guess it just shows the average intelligence of the garden-variety lib.
A perfect example.....Nancy Pelosi
I honestly don’t know how a liberal Catholic can reconcile their faith and liberal beliefs, especially when it comes to abortion.
A more perfect example:Ted Kennedy. The Irish of Boston and Massachusetts should be ashamed they have imposed that drunken pro-abort on the nation time and time again; and I say that as a person of Irish descent, whose father was born and raised in Lynn.
I am second generation Irish American (my grandparents emigrated around the turn of the century) and no one is more ashamed of those reprobates as I am. We can throw that Kerry jackass into the pot as well.
**In a satirical manner, Cardinal Arinze criticized a standard pro-abortion political argument.
“To the person who says, ‘Personally, I am against abortion, but then if people really want to do it I leave them free’ you can say ‘You are a member of the senate or the congress.**
Cardinal Arinze hits the nail on the head!
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Abortion and Euthanasia |
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| Sen. Joseph Biden (D-DE) | Catholic politician who votes for abortion in contradiction to Church teachings. One of American Life League's "Deadly Dozen." |
| Sr. Mary J. Bujak | Sex Information and Education Council for the United States (SIECUS). |
| Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) | Catholic politician who votes for abortion in contradiction to Church teachings. One of American Life League's "Deadly Dozen." |
| Sen. Tom Daschle (D-SD) | Catholic politician who votes for abortion in contradiction to Church teachings. One of American Life League's "Deadly Dozen." |
| Sen. Christopher Dodd (D-CT) | Catholic politician who votes for abortion in contradiction to Church teachings. One of American Life League's "Deadly Dozen." |
| Sr. Margretta Dwyer | Sex Information and Education Council for the United States (SIECUS). |
| Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA) | Catholic politician who votes for abortion in contradiction to Church teachings. One of American Life League's "Deadly Dozen." |
| Joan Harriman | National Organization for Women member who founded Catholics for a Free Choice. |
| Mary Hunt | Sex Information and Education Council for the United States (SIECUS). |
| Bishop Franz Kamphaus | German bishop in Frankfurt who, in direct defiance to cease and desist orders from the Vatican, offers counseling certificates to pregnant women who can use said certificates to obtain abortions. |
| Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) | Catholic politician who votes for abortion in contradiction to Church teachings. One of American Life League's "Deadly Dozen." |
| Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) | Catholic politician, currently running for president in the Democratic party (of death) who votes for abortion in contradiction to Church teachings. One of American Life League's "Deadly Dozen." |
| Fr. Arthur L. Kinsella | Sex Information and Education Council for the United States (SIECUS). |
| Frances Kissling | President of Catholics for a Free Choice. |
| Sr. Marie A. Kopin | Sex Information and Education Council for the United States (SIECUS). |
| Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-LA) | Catholic politician who votes for abortion in contradiction to Church teachings. One of American Life League's "Deadly Dozen." |
| Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) | Catholic politician who votes for abortion in contradiction to Church teachings. One of American Life League's "Deadly Dozen." |
| Daniel C. Maguire | Teaches at Marquette University. Justifies abortion by saying "when the woman consents to the pregnancy ... God then infuses a soul into the body," thereby implying that killing the "fetus" is not killing a person. |
| Patricia Fogarty McQuillan | National Organization for Women member who founded Catholics for a Free Choice. |
| Sen. Barbara Mikulski (D-MD) | Catholic politician who votes for abortion in contradiction to Church teachings. One of American Life League's "Deadly Dozen." |
| Meta Mulcahy | National Organization for Women member who founded Catholics for a Free Choice. |
| Sen. Patty Murray (D-WA) | Catholic politician who votes for abortion in contradiction to Church teachings. One of American Life League's "Deadly Dozen." |
| Jon O'Brien | Catholics for a Free Choice. |
| Sen. Jack Reed (D-RI) | Catholic politician who votes for abortion in contradiction to Church teachings. One of American Life League's "Deadly Dozen." |
| Denise Riley | Catholics for a Free Choice. |
| Elisabeth Schussler-Fiorenza | Sex Information and Education Council for the United States (SIECUS) |
And of course, you have Clinton and Obama voting for partial birth abortion. Granted they aren’t Catholics, but they still support these murderous acts.
Thanks for posting that.
Let’s not forget the priests that are pro-abortion. This drives me nuts.
Shouldn’t nancy pelosi be on this list?
yes
“Let’s not forget the priests that are pro-abortion. This drives me nuts.”
That the Church does not act against these priests and nuns who are advocates of the Culture of Death is as shameful as the earlier failure to remove the pedophiles within the priesthood.
Sanctions ought also be imposed on any politician who claims to be a Catholic, such as denial of the sacraments. Why the Church, through its Bishops, does not act is simply beyond me.
Absolutely. I put a disclaimer on the website link because I knew not everyone was in it that needed to be in it.
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