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To: topher
Please give us some details. I am a monthly contributor to Priests for Life, and I head up a chapter of Right to Life, so I have some stake in this matter.

This greatest of wars against Satan is fought on many fronts, and I would be loathe to attack any allies. Are you certain that Fr. Pavone's organization is utterly bereft of value in this war? Can you provide specific information?
11 posted on 01/19/2008 10:59:47 AM PST by jobim
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To: jobim
I think Father Frank has value in this fight, but, as an example, even though he was very much involved with the movie Bella (he is in the credits of the movie, and gave a retreat for the cast of the movie), it was almost a month after the movie was released that he urged action...

People like Cardinal O'Malley, Cardinal Rigali, and other bishops were ahead of him in urging people to see this movie.

It is my personal belief that he does not allow himself to be guided by the Holy Spirit and spend more time in prayer than he does. He currently spends a lot of time doing things like programming computers for PFL, or working on his laptop, as well as his TV and Radio spots. He also spends alot of time managing PFL.

Some of that is fine. But if you look at how Jesus spent His time in the Gospels, He often went off to pray... Father Frank, on the other hand, has so overextended his time and does things like programming computers, that needed time for praying is just not there.

Where I am critical of Father Frank is that when I worked for him, and I knew he was in NYC, to my knowledge he never tried to make it out to an abortion clinic there to pray, as well as encourage others to pray and work in the pro-life movement. Just about any time I went to the abortion clinic in Brooklyn that Monsignor Reilly has a presence at, I almost 100% would see him there that day -- if I waited long enough. And there was even one Saturday at that clinic that we had more saves than abortions...

Father Frank is very much in the leadership aspect of pro-life as well as media presence. But I found that my spiritual life suffered while working for Father Frank Pavone.

For me, that is disturbing, as working for a Catholic organization that is pro-life, my spiritual life should have flourished...

Father Frank made it very difficult to attend Mass or other prayers because he had a very strict schedule and rules for people.

That might be okay (the strict rules, etc), but not if he makes what I consider was a huge blunder with the movie Bella -- several weeks before the movie opened, he should have been urging pro-lifers to action on this movie so that it could make it into even more markets thatn it did.

Instead, he did this about 2 months later, and after I had sent some really tough worded emails to PFL priests and to the organization. He then did respond...

When I left PFL, I honestly felt that if someone had asked if Father Frank Pavone was a good or bad priest, I could not answer the person -- I leaned towards the bad priest answer, but he does alot of good with the sacraments. But most of this masses are either on TV, or on the road, or by himself in the PFL chapel.

He did not pray with the PFL employees or offer to. I can never remember Father Frank ever giving him a blessing. This is a trademark of Monsignor Reilly. If you are at an abortion clinic, and he arrives. He will spent time talking to the person monitoring the women/girls coming/going, talk to the women/girls, and just before he leaves, Monsignor Philip Reilly would always give his blessing to those prayer warriors and counselors present.

I say this with the thought that I would get up at 4am to take Father Frank to the airport (or pick him up), and be with him at all other odd times of day and night.

Spirituality was not part of that presence. And he had difficulty dealing with anything more than he wanted you to do (because he is so overloaded with things).

He tries to compensate for that by making a set of rules for all his employees to follow so that HIS TIME is maximized.

In any organization, creating a person who is a stumbling block creates a problem, and that is exactly what Father Frank did.

One example was that only once a month the Pastoral Associates would be in for meetings with their laptops.

So even if Dr. Alveda King needed some minor thing for her laptop, that had to go to and be approved by Father Frank.

Things like that wasted his employees time and other peoples times...

13 posted on 01/19/2008 8:36:55 PM PST by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: jobim
I have friends in Atlanta that are strongly involved in the Pro-Life movement. They have found what Monsignor Reilly is doing to be model they follow.

This is using his prayer book (which is a three hour prayer book). The book allows one to pray just an hour or just a porton of an hour, and has included many devotions: Litany of the Blessed Virgin Mary, Litany of the Holy Spirit, Litany of the Precious Blood, stations of the cross, Divine Mercy Chaplet, Rosary, etc.

Another trademark of this group, The Helpers of God's Precious Infants, is a 24 hour presence/prayer vigil for Good Friday.

He does not advocate money donations, but demands prayer and presence at the abortion mill.

PFL has helped with this as traveling priests have been a part of the prayer vigils, or part of the 40 Days for Life movement -- in other words, if during the 40 Day Fast and Prayer a PFL priest is in town, he will go out to the abortion clinic.

14 posted on 01/21/2008 4:36:45 AM PST by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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