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Epiphany Revealed (Did the Wise Men Really Have Names?)
CatholicExchange.com ^ | Marcellino D'Ambrosio

Posted on 01/05/2008 9:02:33 PM PST by Salvation

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To: Salvation

For 700 years the Catholic church recognized Uriel. Then poof!


21 posted on 01/06/2008 4:23:31 PM PST by Soliton
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To: RightWhale

As I mentioned I was specifically talking about Biblical references.

Yes, I believe each of our Guadian Angels has a name.


22 posted on 01/06/2008 4:23:44 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: RightWhale

Or were you talking about the three Kings?

Again the original post spoke about Matthew telling of the story of the Magi, also references Isaiah.


23 posted on 01/06/2008 4:24:56 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Magi. They have been given names, a different set of three names depending on who needed to name them for whatever reason.


24 posted on 01/06/2008 4:27:46 PM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: RightWhale

No names given in Scripture, however.


25 posted on 01/06/2008 4:36:25 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

I don’t know who gets to name them, but apparently at some points in history it became necessary and so they were named, and several times with differing names in different communities.


26 posted on 01/06/2008 4:39:51 PM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: Biggirl
I imagine some devout Christians were able to get hold of the rmains (or some of the remains) after the tombs were destroyed by followers of the Islamic faith...

They may have been preserved by artifical means (their bodies), but it is my personal belief that they followed the life of Christ, and they were blest for that.

I know I have heard of things about this from perhaps the History Channel.

Considering how the Apostle Thomas had his remains returned from India (Kerelya), it makes sense that the Christiams took great care of those they considered saints.

I believe Mary and Martha (sisters of Lazarus) were buried in the South of France, along with Saint Anne (mother of Mary)...

In the year 2000, the Jesuits did scientific tests on the body of the Gospel writer Luke, who is buried in Padua, Italy... Tradition had it had Saint Luke had an disease of old age that affected his back. This was also found on the body buried at Padua... (And I imagine they proved the body was 2000 years old...)

27 posted on 01/06/2008 7:15:23 PM PST by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: Salvation
"Christus bendicat mansionem" leads to the naming of the Three Kings. Interesting.
28 posted on 01/06/2008 7:33:53 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Soliton; Salvation; Lijahsbubbe
For 700 years the Catholic church recognized Uriel. Then poof!

Poof. That's what happens alright!

29 posted on 01/06/2008 7:52:45 PM PST by Ezekiel
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"Christus bendicat mansionem" leads to the naming of the Three Kings. Interesting.

Mmm...I dunno...that story seems a little off for some reason. I have trouble believing the chalk custom preceded the names. I'll investigate though and see what I come up with.

30 posted on 01/07/2008 1:37:15 PM PST by Claud
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To: Soliton
Michael, Gabriel, Raphael are the only angel names that we are aware of from the Bible 2 Esdras 4:1 And the angel that was sent unto me, whose name was Uriel, gave me an answer,

There are 7 listed in Enoch. Not a recognize book by Catholics but recognized by Jude, whose book is recognized by Catholics.

31 posted on 01/07/2008 2:15:03 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

You can’t forget Archangel Fred. He isn’t mentioned in the Bible or the Apocrypha. But he has his own cult here.


32 posted on 01/07/2008 2:18:42 PM PST by Soliton
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You can’t forget Archangel Fred. He isn’t mentioned in the Bible or the Apocrypha. But he has his own cult here.

Say it isn't so! I'm a member of a cult. :-)

33 posted on 01/07/2008 2:23:10 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Salvation; Ciexyz

Yeah, after some digging I think Mr. D’Ambrosio accidentally passed on some incorrect research. The Western names Caspar, Melchior, and Balthazzar are early:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Magi

“The names of the Magi derive from an early 6th century Greek manuscript in Alexandria, translated into the Latin Excerpta Latina Barbari: [quoted in footnote: At that time in the reign of Augustus, on 1st January the Magi brought him gifts and worshipped him. The names of the Magi were Bithisarea, Melchior and Gathaspa.]”

The chalk initials came from those names and not the other way ‘round.


34 posted on 01/07/2008 2:39:45 PM PST by Claud
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To: Claud; Salvation

Tradition, tradition.


35 posted on 01/03/2009 9:47:18 PM PST by Ciexyz
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