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The Image of Our Lady of Guadalupe
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Posted on 12/10/2007 4:33:54 PM PST by Salvation

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To: Salvation
The Image and Science

1. The image to this date, cannot be explained by science.

2. The image shows no sign of deterioration after 450 years! The tilma or cloak of Juan Diego on which the image of Our Lady has been imprinted, is a coarse fabric made from the threads of the maguey cactus. This fiber disintegrates within 20-60 years!

3. There is no under-sketch, no sizing and no protective over-varnish on the image.

4. Microscopic examination revealed that there were no brush strokes.

5. The image seems to increase in size and change colors due to an unknown property of the surface and substance of which it is made.

6. According to Kodak of Mexico, the image is smooth and feels like a modern-day photograph. (It was produced 300 years before the invention of photography.)

7. The image has consistently defied exact reproduction, whether by brush or camera.

8. Several images can be seen reflected in the eyes of the Virgin. It is believed to be the images of Juan Diego, Bishop Juan de Zummaraga, Juan Gonzales, the interpreter and others.

9. The distortion and place of the images are identical to what is produced in the normal eye which is impossible to obtain on a flat surface.

10. The stars on Our Lady's Mantle coincide with the constellation in the sky on December 12, 1531. All who have scientifically examined the image of Our Lady over the centuries confess that its properties are absolutely unique and so inexplicable in human terms that the image can only be supernatural!

21 posted on 12/10/2007 7:37:03 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: steve86
Thanks for your story.

My wife and I attribute the adoption of our oldest son to Our Lady of Guadalupe.

After years of not being able to have children, my wife and I started looking into adoption. We started attending seminars on adoption. But with all the emphasis on open adoption and all the fear mongering in the drive-by-media, we weren't sure if that was what we should do.

One day, my wife was looking for something to read, and she came across a book on Our Lady of Guadalupe. She'd forgotten the story, so she decided to read it, and was just blown away by the words of Our Lady:
Listen and let it penetrate into your heart. . . . Do not be troubled or weighed down with grief. Do not fear any illness or vexation, anxiety or pain. Am I not here who am your Mother? Are you not under my shadow and protection? Am I not your fountain of life? Are you not in the folds of my mantle? In the crossing of my arms? Is there anything else that you need?

She decided to pray for the intercession of Our Lady of Guadalupe. What should we do? Should we try to adopt? Or are we just not meant to have kids?

Less than two hours later, my wife received a phone call from a friend of her from high school. (We hadn't told anyone we were thinking of adopting.) Her friend said, "I have an unusual question for you. Have you and Dan ever thought about adopting? The only reason why I ask is because my parents were just in Rome, and they had lunch with an American adoption attorney who's representing a birth mother that's looking for a very specific type of adoptive parents. And the parents she described sounded just like you two."

Well anyway, my wife and I both took that as a sign. We contacted the attorney, met the birth mother, and got along great.

Three days after he was born, the birth mother handed our son Kevin to us, completely at peace with her decision. We all agree that this is precisely what God wanted.

Since then, we've adopted two more children (Vivian and Sean). Kevin is now seven years old. We tell him that it was Our Lady of Guadalupe that gave him to us.

22 posted on 12/10/2007 8:05:42 PM PST by guinnessman
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To: guinnessman

Thank you for that message. It is one I will save in a folder I have.


23 posted on 12/10/2007 10:52:50 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: Salvation

That is one of the main tenants of their new “revelation”
Roman Catholics always just seem to put Mormons in with those “other Protestants”. Might want to do a bit of research. They are NOT orthodox Christians.


24 posted on 12/11/2007 5:54:32 AM PST by Bainbridge
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To: Salvation

Thank you Salvation,here’s a bump.


25 posted on 12/11/2007 10:31:12 AM PST by fatima
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To: A.A. Cunningham
All who have scientifically examined the image of Our Lady over the centuries confess that its properties are absolutely unique and so inexplicable in human terms that the image can only be supernatural!

Supernatural doesn't sit well with the atheists. Maybe that's why God throws mankind a loop every once in a while (smile).

26 posted on 12/11/2007 12:23:18 PM PST by pray4liberty (Watch and pray.)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

The scientific facts about the image of our Lady of Guadalupe on St. Juan Diego’s tilma cause many to claim that Glaudalupe is the greatest miracle of modern times.

There is also lots of information in the links above.

Thanks, A.A. for your input. The scientific viewpoint here is ssooooooooo powerful here.


27 posted on 12/11/2007 7:12:41 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: guinnessman

**Do not fear any illness or vexation, anxiety or pain. Am I not here who am your Mother?**

Your story definitely indicates that your wife’s prayers were answered...........and within 24 hours. Wow!


28 posted on 12/11/2007 7:15:27 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Bainbridge

Aware of that. Now if we can just educate the rest of the world without sounding anti-anything.


29 posted on 12/11/2007 7:16:27 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: sandyeggo; steve86; Salvation; NYer

Thanks!

Happy Feast Day!


31 posted on 12/12/2007 4:20:19 PM PST by guinnessman
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To: Salvation

bump to read later


32 posted on 12/12/2007 6:33:57 PM PST by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Salvation

 

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33 posted on 12/11/2008 2:00:21 PM PST by Coleus (Abortion and Physician-assisted Murder (aka-Euthanasia), Don't Democrats just kill ya?)
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34 posted on 12/12/2008 6:38:24 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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