>I find it of interest that a man who, in his statement of beliefs, says that some man will be saved and others will not, because God has already made up his mind and we can do nothing to change it, BUT I MUST CHANGE MY WAYS.
So the Mormon church teaches that God has no clue who is going to heaven? God has no knowledge of the future? That whole ‘Prophet Joseph Smith’ thing is just a title, and has nothing to do with ‘prophecy’?
Of course not. Just because the Mormon church runs screaming from predestination, (just like most Christian churches do), does not mean they don’t play footsie with Gods foreknowledge. The bible clearly teaches this doctrine that you disagree with (just look at Ephesians 1 for a good starter.)
I would contend that ‘revelation’ and ‘prophecy’ in the Mormon church has often had its problems with consistency. Racial issues is the biggest, easiest to see example. Mark of Cain, anyone? How about poligamy: “the only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy.” ? So Mormon prophets do say that God knows the future, its just that they themselves tend not to.
As for you changing your ways, even the Mormon church teaches that.
You certainly must DO things to reach the higher goodies in heaven. Don’t tithe and see how fast the Church comes to make sure you keep up THAT good work. I have heard it described by a ‘good’ Mormon as almost as bad as the IRS.
So your complaint is that this man, who shares generally the beliefs of your church that God can know things normally out of mans reach, and that man must change to conform to God’s will, has a higher view of what God is and what He can know and a lower view of man.
The unfortunate part for the Mormon church is that James White is backed up by Scripture and the Mormon church has nothing but the slippery shifting and changing revelation of it’s prophets and apostles.
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You have done a good gob of using my question to give your mostly misdirected answer. You even managed to not answer my question.
The question is, If through predestination God has decided how to create me and what I am to do after I die, or restated, if I can do nothing to change where I am going because he has already decided where I will go, WHY SHOULD I WORRY ABOUT WHAT I DO IN THIS LIFE?
I WILL GO WHERE HE SENDS ME MO MATTER WHAT, BECAUSE HE ALLREADY DECIDED THAT BEFORTIME.
This is the bottom line of what you and yours teach.
James White is backed up by Scripture
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And yet, Gamecock, who is also backed up by Scripture, has said something other then James White. Who is correct, and which should you be correcting?
Since you guys, who know the true meaning of the words in the bible, DO NOT AGREE WITH EACH OTHER, how should we, who you also say are wrong, know which one of you to follow.
You have even said that most other Christian churches are wrong {(just like most Christian churches do)}!
What a mess you guys have created.