Blaspheme against the Holy Ghost. Mark 3:29. 
Posted on 11/23/2007 9:14:46 AM PST by Gamecock
Well then, teach me why YOU are right.
What would you like to know?
what are the bare bones tenets of your religion?
Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV)
don that, what’s next?
I don think so. I really don't think that you believe that.
As a Mormon I was taught that Christ atoned for our sins by sweating great drops of blood in the Garden of Gethsemane. But Paul states categorically that he DIED for our sins. Christ took the punishment for our sins on the Cross and suffered and died for our sins.
Do you really believe that?
"Sealed the Atonement". Is this Mormon doctrine or are you making this up as you go along?
Did Christ die on the cross for your sins?
Which ones?
Did he leave any out?
Is there some sin that you could commit or have committed which would or could undo what Christ did for YOU on the cross?
Is there some good work or some ritual that you must do in order to contribute to the work of Christ in atoning for your own sins?
In other words do you REALLY believe the words of Paul that Christ died for your sins?
Blaspheme against the Holy Ghost. Mark 3:29.
In light of the fact that Christ said that he would lose NONE of his sheep, is it even possible for one of Christ's sheep to commit that sin?
If so, then would that not make Christ a liar?
If so, then would that not make Christ a liar?
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Please list the denominations you believe to be wrong because they do not understand the words of God in the Bible like you do. I told my cats that they get half my steak dinner, if you had the fortitude to offend others, like you offend us. Will you see that they get their stake?
Yes or no?
How does your question answer my straight forward question to yo, or are you telling me I have to share my steak with my cats?
You changed the subject.
You asked me "what are the bare bones tenets of your religion?"
I then responded with the simple statement of the Gospel in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.
You then responded that you had "don that, what’s next?"
I then challenged you as to whether or not you truly believed that Christ died for your sins.
And now I'm just trying to get a straight answser from you on whether or not you truly believe what Paul wrote in 1 Cor 15:1-4.
So can you answer this simple question?
Did Christ DIE for your sins?
Did Christ DIE for your sins?
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YES
now answer this;
Please list the denominations you believe to be wrong because they do not understand the words of God in the Bible like you do. I told my cats that they get half my steak dinner, if you had the fortitude to offend others, like you offend us. Will you see that they get their stake?
Who is "us" and wherein have I offended "us"?
I told you that your arguments against Calvinism were lame. The fact is that you build straw men against Calvinism and then knock them down. Nobody is impressed.
Don't feel bad, I've been guilty of using those same silly arguments against Calvinism. They are not good arguments. You can have honest disagreements with Calvinism without misrepresenting what they believe. Try it sometime.
Tell me, do you think God is the ultimate determiner of who is or is not going to be saved?
If so, when did he make that determination?
Really? Then what was all this stuff about "sealing the atonement" on the cross?
When I was a Mormon I was taught that Christ atoned for my sins in the Garden of Gesthemane. I never found that doctrine in the Bible. Maybe I don't have the right translation, eh?
So do Mormons believe that it was Christ's death on the cross which atones for our sins or was it the bleeding in the Garden?
“Us”, who does the article misrepsented.
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I told you that your arguments against Calvinism were lame. The fact is that you build straw men against Calvinism and then knock them down. Nobody is impressed.
All I have done is bring out the teachings of Calvin and ask questions like why there is a difference in the way one group oa Calvinists say one thing and why does another group of Calvinists say it means something else and does that make the other group wrong. No straw man, just want to know witch one of you has the true right to say he is right.
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Don’t feel bad, I’ve been guilty of using those same silly arguments against Calvinism. They are not good arguments. You can have honest disagreements with Calvinism without misrepresenting what they believe. Try it sometime
I have not brought up any arguments against Calvinism, I just put forth your words and ask questions about them.
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Tell me, do you think God is the ultimate determiner of who is or is not going to be saved?
If so, when did he make that determination?
If you mean did he determine who will be saved from the sins of Adam, yes. He did it before people came to this earth.
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If you have any thing to add to the above, please do.
And, answer my repeated question to you, in a separate posting, as if it is another thread.
As stated before;
Please list the denominations you believe to be wrong because they do not understand the words of God in the Bible like you do. I told my cats that they get half my steak dinner, if you had the fortitude to offend others, like you offend us. Will you see that they get their stake?
Did Christ die for YOUR sins, or did he die for the sins of Adam?
I'm confused. Is there a difference between being saved from the sins of Adam and your own sins?
The bible states that it is by grace we have been saved through faith and not of works. Have you been saved?
What have you been saved from?
I told my cats that they get half my steak dinner, if you had the fortitude to offend others, like you offend us. Will you see that they get their stake?
Who are the "us" that I have offended? And who are the "others" that you would like for me to offend?
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