Posted on 11/04/2007 10:59:08 AM PST by real saxophonist
He doesn't say the Bible is a "living" document and he doesn't imply disharmony within the Bible.
I don't see any factual error.
Your shot.
He denies that Elohim wrote the Word and keeps His Word.
Which is why I asked for opinions of those more studied in such subjects than I.
This is standard Protestant hermeneutics. Dogmatic churches don’t have a problem.
The good reverend conflates taking the Bible "literaly" with taking the Bible "seriously." Of which he does neither.
No sale.
Jesus is a jokester...He didn’t mean anything He said...
What's a "More Light" Church?
Opening our church to everyone
After a series of discussions and congregational meetings, our congregation almost unanimously voted to become a "More Light" Presbyterian Church on April 6, 1997. This is a voluntary decision to align ourselves with other "More Light" Presbyterian Churches who value the inclusion of all people into membership and office within the Presbyterian Church (USA), regardless of sexual orientation.
A "More Light Church" seeks to follow the risen Christ, and to make the Church a true community of hospitality. We believe in the full participation of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people of faith in the life, ministry and witness of the Presbyterian Church (USA).
For additional information, please go to the following website:
http://www.mlp.org/
Googling “More Light Presbyterian” was interesting. Why did they think that was necessary? Wouldn’t the Presbyterian USA mean the same thing?
Me too.
I consciously read BCE as 'Before (the) Christian Era' and CE as (the) 'Christian Era'.
But I always think "Before Christ" and "Anno Domini" (“in the year of our Lord”)
Romans 1:20-22
20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
21For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools
Where do you disagree with him?
The Rev. Steve Brown is pastor at Family of Christ Presbyterian Church in Greeley.
I'm guessing PCUSA.
And another 20 years passed until Mark wrote the first gospel in 70 CE.
And we know this...how?
n addition, it must be mentioned that the Bible contains various forms of literary expression. It's more like reading a newspaper than a novel by a single author, wherein the language varies as we move from the sports section to the comics to the fashion to the editorial pages. So in the Bible we find stories, poetry, history, non-factual "history," genealogies, parables, and apocalyptic literature.
Well and good, up until he gets to the "non-factual 'history'" part. Nobody (except possibly the unhinged fringe of dispensationalism) thinks that it should all be read like an engineering specification.
These various kinds of writings and forms of word usage don't necessarily invalidate truth claims or the meaningfulness of the Bible, but they certainly call into question interpretations called "literal.
Vern Poythress has a good discussion of "Literal Interpretation" here.
1 Corinthians 2:13-15
13This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.[a] 14The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment:
But going to the More Light Presbyterians site gave me a (needed) rude awakening.
A couple of minutes later I found further enlightenment at the Relifious Archives Network.
OY VEY!!
I learned from this "reprint in More Light Update, February 1987"
that "David Bailey Sindt (1940-1986), founder of the major Presbyterian lesbian and gay organization" was a internationally famous gay horticulturist before he got his Masters of Divinty.
Thank you for the heads up.
.. .....crawling back under my rock,
skeptoid
The first and main objection which I have is that he doesn't affirm that the Bible is the inspired word of God. If he did that, then I would know he was a Christian. His statement that because of the time between the death of Jesus (note: no reference to the Resurrection) and the writing of the New Testament texts, the author's would have suffered from memory lapses.
It's no wonder, then, that the various authors of letters and gospels in the New Testament differ in their accounts of what Jesus said and did.
This is very problematic. Definitely getting into "Jesus Seminar" turf here.
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