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Scandal brewing at Oral Roberts
Yahoo News ^ | October 6, 2007 | JUSTIN JUOZAPAVICIUS

Posted on 10/06/2007 3:43:11 PM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 10/06/2007 3:43:13 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
"Unfortunately, ownership has shifted."

"When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? And they said, Some [say that thou art] John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed [it] unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ." - Matthew 16:13-20

2 posted on 10/06/2007 3:50:29 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer
Now, his son, Oral Roberts University President Richard Roberts, says God is speaking again, telling him to deny lurid allegations in a lawsuit that threatens to engulf this 44-year-old Bible Belt college in scandal.

Hold on a cotton pickin' minute -- he's not quoted in the remainder of the article as saying "God told me to..." Is this an attempt at humor on the part of the reporter, an ill-advised snide remark, or is this version of the article incomplete?

the campus, which had a modern, space-age design when it was built in the early 1960s but now looks dated, like Disney's Tomorrowland.

That's cool. Concept cars always look cooler than what actually is produced. When people dreamed of what vehicles would look like in the 21st century, they didn't look like the aerodynamic things that look like melting sticks of butter we see on the road today.

3 posted on 10/06/2007 3:53:51 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (From Slick Willie to Slick Hill'y in Eight Years?!)
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To: L.N. Smithee

I think the reporter took some license with that.


4 posted on 10/06/2007 3:58:41 PM PDT by ER Doc
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To: L.N. Smithee
I agree.I don’t know these people but we used to be on the same station so I got to watch them.This sounds like a hit piece.
5 posted on 10/06/2007 4:06:31 PM PDT by fatima (Baby alert,Baby Ava arrived 6-29-07 at 3 PM-she is 10 pounds:))
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To: NYer; Larry Lucido; AnAmericanMother; Billthedrill; aculeus
Mrs. Roberts — who is a member of the board of regents and is referred to as ORU’s “first lady” on the university’s Web site — frequently had cell-phone bills of more than $800 per month, with hundreds of text messages sent between 1 a.m. to 3 a.m. to “underage males who had been provided phones at university expense.”

“Lindsay, you got some ’splainin’ to do.”

6 posted on 10/06/2007 4:09:36 PM PDT by dighton
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...which grew from Southern tent revivals to one of the most successful evangelical empires in the country, hauling in tens of millions of dollars in contributions a year. bolding mine

No bias here /sarcasm
7 posted on 10/06/2007 4:44:55 PM PDT by Talking_Mouse (O Lord, destroy Islam by converting the Muslims to Christianity.)
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To: NYer
That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Exactly...Jesus was referring to Himself, or He could have been carring a picture of Paul...

Peter's Jewish church didn't attract all that much attention and Jesus commissioned Paul to bring the church to the Gentiles...

If Jesus was not the 'rock', which He clearly was, then the rock had to have been Paul...

I assume Jesus had a perfect command of the English language...Why would Jesus say 'YOU' when referring to Peter and then 'THIS' when referring to the rock if He was calling Peter the rock??? That's torturing the English language which seems to be in pretty good shape in the rest of the Bible...

8 posted on 10/06/2007 5:11:57 PM PDT by Iscool (REMEMBER all mushrooms are edible, some of them only once!)
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9 posted on 10/06/2007 5:17:04 PM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (Reunite Gondwanaland!)
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To: Iscool

That sounds like the governor of Texas - “If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it’s good enough for the schoolchildren of Texas!”


10 posted on 10/06/2007 5:40:57 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother

That reminds me of another saying, in support of the King James — “If the King James Version was good enough for Jesus, it’s good enough for me!” :-)


11 posted on 10/06/2007 7:25:52 PM PDT by Proud2BAmerican
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To: NYer

The text message and under age male-loving Mrs. Roberts.

12 posted on 10/06/2007 8:22:55 PM PDT by marshmallow
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“If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it’s good enough for the schoolchildren of Texas”

Which TX gov said that? Is that an honest quote?


13 posted on 10/06/2007 10:48:10 PM PDT by DemEater
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It’s a legitimate quote. IIRC, it was “Ma” Ferguson who uttered those famous words when she vetoed a Bill providing the teaching of foreign languages in Texas schools (and in particular, Spanish).


14 posted on 10/07/2007 5:20:45 AM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: dighton

-that’s alarming. VERY alarming.


15 posted on 10/07/2007 5:30:13 AM PDT by tioga
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To: marshmallow

Let’s see, if she was a school teacher , would she be guilty?


16 posted on 10/07/2007 5:35:10 AM PDT by csvset
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To: NYer
Sounds like Jim and Tammy Baker all over again!
17 posted on 10/07/2007 9:32:16 AM PDT by Herakles (Diversity is code word for anti-white racism)
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To: tioga

Well, she used to be a flight attendant and that’s how Richard met her.


18 posted on 10/07/2007 1:46:53 PM PDT by rabidralph
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Looks like the couple believed they were too big for ethics of the little people... A hard fall’s coming.


19 posted on 10/07/2007 2:01:09 PM PDT by elfman2 ("As goes Fallujah, so goes central Iraq and so goes the entire country" -Col Coleman, USMC ,4/2004)
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To: BnBlFlag
It was "Ma" Ferguson.

"Me for Ma -- and I ain't got a derned thing against Pa!"

20 posted on 10/07/2007 2:08:09 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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