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Higher Calling: A woman is ordained to the Roman Catholic priesthood (Newsweek)
Newsweek ^ | Sept. 13, 2007 | Karen Springen

Posted on 09/13/2007 12:41:59 PM PDT by presidio9

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To: presidio9

Ultimately these “do what you feel like” churches fail. People end up pulling away from God and then not going to church, because they don’t feel like it. In Britian, all of the Protestant churches had gone left, thinking they would be “inclusive.”

However, when people who don’t have faith find a spiritual void, they want structure and discipline. They don’t want to be told to do whatever you feel like.

Jesus never turned anyone away at the table but he did tell people to turn away from sin. He never said “do what you feel like and it’s okay.”

Of course, the libs want religious people to think that by going left, they will “be nicer” or increase membership. In actually, it splinters everyone.

Btw, traditionally, the UCC (United Church of Christ) had been the most anti-Catholic of the Protestant demoninations.


61 posted on 09/13/2007 1:49:11 PM PDT by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)
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To: presidio9
In other news...


62 posted on 09/13/2007 1:51:05 PM PDT by Deo volente
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To: Cheverus
There are a plethora of lines that claim to be “Old Catholic”...most are wacky quacky liberals, a couple are a bit more High Church.

Then there is the Polish National Catholic Church, with about 60,000 members in the US, which objects to Papal Infallibility, the doctrine of the Immaculate Conception of Mary, and the specifically Catholic doctrine of Original Sin. After the schism they became associated with the Episcopal Church in the U.S., but ended the connection because of the ordination of women. This is from Wikipedia. They are definitely a high church, not a scam.

63 posted on 09/13/2007 2:02:43 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (IF TREASON IS THE QUESTION, THEN MOVEON.ORG IS THE ANSWER!)
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To: Barney Gumble
traditionally, the UCC (United Church of Christ) had been the most anti-Catholic of the Protestant demoninations.

I believe that they are derived, historically, from the Puritans, lots of bad feelings both ways there. Of course these days their theology is barely Christian, I much prefer the Mormons, their heresies (from the viewpoint of a papist), notwithstanding.

64 posted on 09/13/2007 2:07:24 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (IF TREASON IS THE QUESTION, THEN MOVEON.ORG IS THE ANSWER!)
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To: pgyanke
No. Not an error. It was purposeful and meant to stir up discord and put the Church on the defensive. I meant what I said... inflammatory.

Whoa, simmer down.

A "fact error" is a term of art in journalism. It's like perjury on the witness stand; once it's shown, the entire testimony becomes invalid. A j-school student that turns in a paper with even one fact error immediately gets a failing grade for that paper.

What I was telling you is whoever wrote this knew better.

65 posted on 09/13/2007 3:22:18 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: RobbyS; FormerLib
They are describing an organization that is separate from the Catholic Church. So how is this newsworthy?

It is newsworthy to their ignorant readers (with minor accomodations made to the truth).

67 posted on 09/13/2007 4:32:18 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: Barney Gumble

You’re point is well taken, If I didn’t sing in the choir it would be very hard for me to make myself go to mass every week. But people are counting on me, expecting me, and it makes all the difference.


68 posted on 09/13/2007 4:40:02 PM PDT by ichabod1 ("Self defense is not only our right, it is our duty." President Ronald Reagan)
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To: presidio9
Here's what priesthood is about.

What You [Catholics] Need to Know: Priesthood (Holy Orders) [Catholic-Orthodox Caucus]

What You {Catholics} Need to Know: Celibacy [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]

69 posted on 09/13/2007 5:00:53 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: papertyger

I understand... but I see it the same I see it when people refer to adultery as a “mistake”...


70 posted on 09/13/2007 5:05:32 PM PDT by pgyanke (Duncan Hunter 08--You want to elect a conservative? Then support a conservative!)
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To: presidio9
Anyone can call themselves anything, but that does not make it so.

Just like illegals can call themselves "immigrants", but morally and legally they can never be. Words mean things, and we can't all have personal definitions.

71 posted on 09/13/2007 6:43:08 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: presidio9
Anyone can call themselves anything, but that does not make it so.

Just like illegals can call themselves "immigrants", but morally and legally they can never be. Words mean things, and we can't all have personal definitions.

72 posted on 09/13/2007 6:47:54 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: wideawake
Doing more digging, I am going to guess that this group has significantly less than 1,000 100 people who attend their services weekly.

There.
Fixed it for ya.

73 posted on 09/13/2007 6:55:51 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: live+let_live
I want to be a priest.

I'm holding out for Bishop. I'm not sure I could support my family as a RC priest, but those Bishops seem to have it pretty good.

74 posted on 09/13/2007 8:04:14 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35

You should hold out for direct appointment to Cardinal. Why trifle with the little stuff?


75 posted on 09/14/2007 5:26:28 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

It is astonishing to me that the Polish (or Polish Americans) of all people would develop a splinter group which rejected the Immaculate Conception.


76 posted on 09/14/2007 6:51:50 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9
It is astonishing to me that the Polish (or Polish Americans) of all people would develop a splinter group which rejected the Immaculate Conception.

It was a tiny minority, and, I conjecture, likely due to some local bishop who objected, and his followers left with him.

77 posted on 09/14/2007 2:21:01 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (IF TREASON IS THE QUESTION, THEN MOVEON.ORG IS THE ANSWER!)
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To: presidio9
Last week 25-year-old Jessica Rowley became one of about a dozen women nationwide to make a highly unusual career move: she was ordained a Catholic priest.

No she wasn't. No need to read further, the author is a liar.

78 posted on 09/14/2007 2:21:35 PM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: presidio9

I’m going to have someone declare me a millionaire tomorrow. Do you think if I go to the bank they’ll give me wads of cash? I’ve long nurtured a desire to be a millionaire and it’s not fair that other millionaires won’t recognize me as one of their own just because I don’t have as much money as they do.


79 posted on 09/14/2007 2:24:19 PM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

I was just thinking that Mexico is probably the only nation that holds Mary in a higher regard than Poland does.


80 posted on 09/14/2007 2:33:16 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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