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To: sittnick

Christ did not establish the “church” on Peter, another sinner.

It is a tragedy that the Catholic church didn’t acknowledge the obvious:

Eph. 2:5-9

[5] Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)

[6] And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

[7] That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

[8] For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

[9] Not of works, lest any man should boast.

I really believe GOD has it right and man who disagrees with GOD; has a self serving agenda ... . It’s best to listen to God and not other sinners ... .


18 posted on 08/13/2007 1:53:18 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: nmh; BlackElk; ninenot
Well, here we are in the middle of a discussion about Latin and Greek causing divisions, and you pull out one of many English translations.

You have no authority in any event to give your interpretation of a translation of a translation of a copy of a small fragment any more weight than anybody else.

Since I do not belong to the Church of nmh, and since neither Christ nor Scripture itself says sola scriptura, I will go with the unbroken teaching of the Christ passed down through His Apostles and their successors, rather than nmh or what might well-have been the 16th century equivalent of Catholics for a Free Choice. The only tragedy of the Council of Trent is that it was about 50 years too late.
20 posted on 08/13/2007 2:25:37 PM PDT by sittnick (There is no salvation in politics.)
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