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To: Ping-Pong; MarkBsnr
The "church" may have put it together but they didn't write it. The Catholics didn't write it - the Protestants didn't write it. God did

First, He provided the inspiration and they wrote it in their own words. That's different from God "wrote" it. Second, the Bible, as it was written had no punctuation marks. the fact that we have commas and semicolons inserted at various places (by uninspired editors) corrupts the original (which we don't have) and puts in question the veracity of their choices.

The addition of vowels in the Hebrew text represents human corruption as different 'words" without vowels can be turned into a variety of unrelated words, the choice of vowels then becomes a human choice and none of the rabbis as far as I know were inspired.

Take for instance the vowel less 'word" shp. Add some vowels and see what happens: ship, shap, shop, etc...Hebrew is especially subject to many more word choices because it is a vowelless written language.

Other evidence of corruption is abundant. research Comma Johanneum for example (in 1 John), and Periciope Adulterae in the Gospel of John, or the addition of the last 10-plus verses at the end of the Gospel of Mark and you get the picture...

There is nothing pristine about the Bible.

2,597 posted on 08/17/2007 11:33:55 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; Diego1618; Forest Keeper; Seven_0; D-fendr; MarkBsnr
First, He provided the inspiration and they wrote it in their own words. That's different from God "wrote" it.

He created us. Do you think He didn't have His hand on what and how it was written, exactly written?

I have given you an example before and you may not put much credence in it now either but I'm going to repeat it.

In Deuteronomy 31:16-18 , Yahveh declared His people would forsake Him and in His anger He would hide His face from them. That comes to pass in the Book of Esther. Through this Book He was guiding them secretly, without their knowledge. His name is not mentioned once but secretly, His Sacred Name is hidden in this Book.

Esther 1:20 - All the Wives Shall Give. This is the first of five acrostics that exhibit, in the initials, the Divine Name.

5:4 - Let The King And Haman Come This Day . This is the second of the five.

5:13 - This Availeth Me Nothing. This is the third of five.

7:5 - Who Is He, And Where Is He? This is the fifth acrostic (it does not give Yahveh but does give us the Divine Name, I AM).

7:7 - That There Was Evil Determined Against Him. This is the fourth and last of the four acrostics exhibiting the name Yahveh in this Book.

His working was secret and hidden, hence the name of Yahveh is hidden secretly four times and the name Ehyeh, I AM that I AM, once. The massorah has a rubic, calling attention to that and at least three of the ancient manuscripts show the acrostic letters written in bolder print to draw attention to them, showing the four consonant letters of the name YHVH.

Man could not do that Kosta. Nor could man write Psalms 22 that tells us about the crucifixion of Christ 1,000 years before the event.

There is nothing pristine about the Bible.

And you believe men are?

........Ping

2,607 posted on 08/17/2007 12:27:38 PM PDT by Ping-Pong
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