[kosta50]

That we are talking about them makes them [sic] objective. Some confuse fact with true, which is a confusion of categorical judgement

Like the sentence you just wrote?

[betty boop]

RW: That we are talking about them makes them [sic] objective. Some confuse fact with true, which is a confusion of categorical judgement.

k50: Like the sentence you just wrote?

Hi kosta50! I think RightWhale has a good point, but perhaps you didn't understand it in the fashion he intended.

If people are talking about something, face to face or in a larger group, what they are talking about does become "objective," in the sense that it can be shared. However, something that is "objective" in this sense may or may not be "true." But that the talking has taken place is an empirical, i.e., objective "fact" nonetheless. He suggests that people become confused when "facts" are taken to be "truths." For facts can lie....

Did I understand you correctly, RW?