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To: editor-surveyor; Alamo-Girl; hosepipe; js1138; TXnMA; XeniaSt
Actually, they are only necessary to save the foolish "unbounded" universe. There never was a reason (other than ruling out God's word) to assume an unbounded condition.

What is it that disturbs you about an unbounded universe, Editor-Surveyor? Can you state your objection? I'm not being hostile here, or adversarial. I only wish to understand your point of view.

I do not myself see how an unbounded universe "rules out" God's word in any way. What am I missing?

2,286 posted on 08/13/2007 7:00:50 AM PDT by betty boop ("Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." -- A. Einstein)
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl; hosepipe; js1138; TXnMA; XeniaSt; kosta50
"What is it that disturbs you about an unbounded universe, Editor-Surveyor? Can you state your objection?"

God's word says that this universe is bounded. He said that it is expanded between the waters above and below. Genesis describes a creation that is Earth-centered, which is what the current unworkable unbounded universe model is intended to reject. An Earth-centered universe is full of purpose, and full of the glory of it's creator, and subject to his laws; that is what the unbounded folly is imagined to refute.

The thing that I find most amusing is that even in their silly and impossible unbounded universe, when General Relativity is applied, it becomes obvious that the appearance of great age is an illusion caused by the expansion that they all recognize. In other words, they are being most unscientific in relying on that illusion, simply because allowing for passage of billions of years makes an accidental origin of life seem less impossible for those desiring it.

2,298 posted on 08/13/2007 7:50:16 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: betty boop; editor-surveyor; Alamo-Girl; hosepipe; js1138; TXnMA; XeniaSt
[.. I do not myself see how an unbounded universe "rules out" God's word in any way. What am I missing? ..]

Nothing really, An unbounded universe is freaky.. as is eternity, infinity and any other thing without limit.. The human animal is like a monkey in a tree considering a Rolex watch.. It is shiny, looks interesting, even the gold chain is interesting but the monkey needs to be BORN AGAIN..

I personally once was a primate, they tell me.. but I evolved..
Gods word is now very shiney and intricate.. and speaks of eternity.. which starts TODAY...

2,306 posted on 08/13/2007 8:44:46 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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