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To: irishtenor; Missey_Lucy_Goosey; stfassisi
Definately wickedness, but it worked according to God’s purposes, to save the nation of Israel. In other words, God allows wickedness in the world to work his purposes and to do his will.

Allows, yes; yet He is not the source of it. It is foreknown (He knows our end as well as beginning all at once) but not preordained. Because of His foreknowledge (He knows what choices we will make) everything works to His purpose. But He is not the source or cause of it.

10,567 posted on 11/06/2007 5:25:15 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50
Allows, yes; yet He is not the source of it. It is foreknown (He knows our end as well as beginning all at once) but not preordained. Because of His foreknowledge (He knows what choices we will make) everything works to His purpose. But He is not the source or cause of it.

Bless you! Another excellent post!

10,574 posted on 11/06/2007 5:38:24 PM PST by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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To: kosta50
Because of His foreknowledge (He knows what choices we will make)...

Therefore, God sees something in man that causes God to choose man, being his choice made from his own goodness.

That is a contruct that is totally contradictory to the Apostolic teachings of Scripture.

"There is none good, no not one."

Jesus replied to the rich young man who asked Him, "Good master, what must I do to inherit eternal life", by asking him, "Why do you call Me good? There is but One who is good, that is God."

That construct of God looking down the tube of time to see that a man uses his own goodness to choose God, is contradictory to what "foreknowledge" actually means, being a fore-LOVE, for God has Loved the Elect before the foundations of the cosmos, and makes salvation the result of a human act, choosing God, and not a Divine Act of God exercising His Free Will.

10,575 posted on 11/06/2007 5:39:26 PM PST by Missey_Lucy_Goosey
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To: kosta50

Explain, then, the tree in the garden. Did not God put it there? Did not God put it there for a purpose? What was that purpose other than to allow man to sin? It was ALL part of God’s perfect plan.


10,586 posted on 11/06/2007 5:58:23 PM PST by irishtenor (History was written before God said "Let there be light.")
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