I disagree. Considering how Paul speaks here and throughout, destroying the body is of little consequence to him. What sort of threat would that be to a person causing hate and discontent within the community by telling them that they will die and now join Christ in heaven???
The Holy Spirit seals the believer until the day of redemption (Eph.4:30).
A seal is a mark, a "tatoo", something that says we are 'God's property'. It is not something that prevents you from falling away. Practically speaking, people who have been "sealed" have fallen away and are no longer Christian, so this reality proves that interpretation incorrect. Perhaps you should continue reading Ephesians, about 6 or 7 verses later...
The believer can 'grieve' or 'quench' the Holy Spirit,(relationship issues) but never lose the Holy Spirit, since the Holy Spirit Himself has placed His own seal upon the believer until that individual is redeemed
Scripture, please. This does not jive with real life, either. People who are family can disown each other and end their relationship.
See also Rom.8:38-39 and Jude 24-25 for the role of the Father and Son in eternal security of the believer as well.
I disagree with your interpretation. WE can fall away. Romans tells us that GOD will not abandon us, nor can anyone ELSE force us to leave God. WE can, though.
No, there is nothing in any 'sacrament' that adds grace to the believer.
Where is your evidence? Sorry, you are not authoritative enough in my mind to take you at your word when you make such declarations, especially without any proof or Scriptural evidence whatsoever...
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I disagree. Considering how Paul speaks here and throughout, destroying the body is of little consequence to him. What sort of threat would that be to a person causing hate and discontent within the community by telling them that they will die and now join Christ in heaven???
That is exactly what Paul does do with the individual who is sleeping with his father's wife,
To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus (1Cor.5:5).
That individual was a saved man, who was going to suffer the 'sin unto death' (1Jn.5:20), but he would still go to heaven since Christ died for all of his sins.
He is disciplined on earth for them (Heb.13, Gal.6), not in eternity.
[ The Holy Spirit seals the believer until the day of redemption (Eph.4:30). A seal is a mark, a "tatoo", something that says we are 'God's property'. It is not something that prevents you from falling away. Practically speaking, people who have been "sealed" have fallen away and are no longer Christian, so this reality proves that interpretation incorrect. Perhaps you should continue reading Ephesians, about 6 or 7 verses later... ]
When the Holy Spirit seals you, you are sealed forever.
If you want to see what the power of a seal is read the book of Daniel, when Daniel is thrown into the lions den, and the King set a seal on it, and even a King couldn't break it (Dan.6:17).
The King couldn't get in, and Daniel couldn't get out.
That is what the sealing of the Holy Spirit represents.
[ The believer can 'grieve' or 'quench' the Holy Spirit,(relationship issues) but never lose the Holy Spirit, since the Holy Spirit Himself has placed His own seal upon the believer until that individual is redeemed ]
Scripture, please. This does not jive with real life, either. People who are family can disown each other and end their relationship.
A son remains a son no matter what that son does.
The DNA never changes.
Moreover, in the United States, if a child is adopted, that child can never be disinherited.
A natural child may be, but a adopted child can never be.
And a Christian is adopted into the family of God (Rom.8:15)
[ See also Rom.8:38-39 and Jude 24-25 for the role of the Father and Son in eternal security of the believer as well. ]
I disagree with your interpretation. WE can fall away. Romans tells us that GOD will not abandon us, nor can anyone ELSE force us to leave God. WE can, though.
Gee, you sound like an Arminian, not a Catholic.
Rom. 8:38 says 'any other creature'.
That includes even you.
Once you have received the free gift of salvation through the blood of Jesus Christ, nothing and no one can separate you from that relationship.
Whatever sins you commit in time, will be dealt with in time, but you will be punished as child of God (Gal.4).
[ No, there is nothing in any 'sacrament' that adds grace to the believer. ]
Where is your evidence? Sorry, you are not authoritative enough in my mind to take you at your word when you make such declarations, especially without any proof or Scriptural evidence whatsoever...
I am not claiming any authority.
My authority is the word of God.
Nowhere in scripture does it say anything about any 'sacrament' adding grace to the believer.
Paul states in 1Cor.11:24 that the Lord's supper is done in remembrance for Christ's work on the Cross.
But maybe you can direct me to the scripture that says that a Priest can turn bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ.
I haven't found that one yet.
Yes, the believer who continues to sin and not yield to the Holy Spirit (Rom.6) does suffer eternal loss, not of his salvation, but of his inheritance.
That believer loses the crowns (1Cor.3) he would have had if he had not led a reprobate life ( Rom.14:10,2Cor.5:10)
If you did nothing to earn your salvation (grace) what makes you think that you can do something to lose it? (Eph.2:8-9).
Unless you think have earned your salvation?
:::A seal is a mark, a “tattoo”, something that says we are ‘God’s property’. It is not something that prevents you from falling away. Practically speaking, people who have been “sealed” have fallen away and are no longer Christian, so this reality proves that interpretation incorrect.:::
Absolutely correct. There is a young lady who works for our company that has a tattoo of the Virgin Mary on the right side of her neck, along with several crosses. She is also a libertine druggie and an aggressive predatory lesbian.
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