[MHGinTN]

Lupie, how can one discuss with an one who would asseet the following and then go on for paragraphs spittling forth in heavy condescension: "Your whole premise here is that Satan lied to eve about becoming like God and that it was a sin, satan did not lie, and it was not a sin, the rest of your post goes increasingly away from the truth form there on." Clearly Satan lied when he stated 'you shall not surely die' and scriptures tell us clearly that the wages of sin is death so eating of the tree was sin else the first couple would not have been under the penalty that followed.

Please keep in mind, lupie, the poster is the same one who claims he can't get a good debate because of his superiority to fellow posters whom he deigns to address. [In my best Darth Vader immitation voice ... ] 'The condescension is strong with this one.'

[DelphiUser]

Lupie, how can one discuss with any one who would asseet the following and then go on for paragraphs spittling forth in heavy condescension: "Your whole premise here is that Satan lied to eve about becoming like God and that it was a sin, satan did not lie, and it was not a sin, the rest of your post goes increasingly away from the truth form there on." Clearly Satan lied when he stated 'you shall not surely die' and scriptures tell us clearly that the wages of sin is death so eating of the tree was sin else the first couple would not have been under the penalty that followed.

Sigh, its tireing to be misquoted.

In post # 364 I Said and I quote

Lets tackle this Eve, believed Satan's lie about becoming like God thing once and for all, OK?

In Genesis 3:4-5 it says:

4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

So, Satan told eve two things, 1) she would not Die and 2) she would be as the Gods knowing Good and evil. In Genesis 3:19 It says:

19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

we see God telling Adam the he will die (return to dust) In Genesis 3:22 it says:

22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

Notice the part I bolded? God said Man had become "one of Us" These prove A) That Satan lied about Dieing. B) That Satan did not lie about become as god knowing Good and evil C) the Godhead made up of discrete, but harmonious beings is the correct interpretation of God's being.

So, I was indeed correct in that Satan lied about Death, and not about becomeing like God in that Adam and Even now knew good and evil.

Please keep in mind, lupie, the poster is the same one who claims he can't get a good debate because of his superiority to fellow posters whom he deigns to address.

Well, misquoting me in such an easilly findable way does not help your case, Grin.

[In my best Darth Vader immitation voice ... ] 'The condescension is strong with this one.'

Do you think your post was humble?

P.S. you forgot to ping me again.

[lupie]

MH,

Thanks. I figured from the onset that the conservation would go the direction that it did, so I am not at all suprised, although I am suprised somewhat at the intensity and the quickness. Oh well. If nothing else, the discussion further solidified some things for me. You are right, the discussion is impossible.