From a plain reading???
21: For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be.
You don't think 6 million Jews alone, dying in prison camps in Europe was worse than the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D.???
30: then will appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory;
All the tribes of the earth will see Jesus coming on the clouds??? I haven't read yet of the church Father's account of this...Surely you have some copies you could post...
31: and he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. (RSV)
And Jesus sent out his angels with a very big horn and in 70 A.D. it got blown, and then the angels gathered Jesus' 'elect' from one end of heaven to another???
I thought you guys were the 'elect'...What were you doing in heaven...And now you are on earth???
It pretty clear to any one that can read that Matthew 24 is not a reference to anything in 70 A.D...
So explain, how did you come to the conclusion that Matt. 24 happened in 70 A.D.???
Yes, from a plain reading. Go back and read the ENTIRE chapter, which is why I posted it. Just as in the Old Testament, prophecies contain a part to be filled immediately, and a part to be filled at Christ's coming (in the case of Mt. 24, His Second Coming).
You don't think 6 million Jews alone, dying in prison camps in Europe was worse than the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D.???
No, I don't.
So explain, how did you come to the conclusion that Matt. 24 happened in 70 A.D.???
Some, not all.
You completely missed the point of my post. The point of that post was to do one thing: Prove that from a very basic reading that those two verses taken in the context they were used earlier in the thread is simply wrong. Be they referring to 70 AD or at the end of time, the context they were used earlier in the thread is a misreading to try to prooftext something.