Of course, willy nilly pain infliction is not particularly Christ-like and to be avoided automatically.
Just read this morning...
The watchmen that went about the city found me, they smote me, they wounded me; the keepers of the walls took away my veil from me. ~Song of Solomon 5:7
854 posted on 06/26/2007 1:04:02 AM PDT by .30Carbine
(My Redeemer is Faithful and True.)