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Cardinals, Bishops, Theologians and Lay Apologists Speak-up for Marian Coredemption
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Posted on 05/16/2007 1:51:59 PM PDT by Friar Roderic Mary

Ave Maria!

Recent initiatives in support of the Dogmatic Declaration of Marian Coredemption are springing up like May flowers in this Month of Mary and are the fruit of many years of dialogue and theological discussion organized by the Hierarchy, the Franciscans of the Immaculate, and Vox Popoli Mariae Mediatrici. This movement is supported by a wide range of theologians and lay people, and the initiatives have five main thrusts: Hierarchical, Theological, Popular Apologetical, a Video Series on the internet, and a Lay Petition drive.

Hierarchical:

A symposium was held on May 3rd to the 7th, 2005 in Fatima, Portugal, led by five Cardinals which the Franciscans of the Immaculate helped arrange. The gathering of over fifty bishops from around the world, including five cardinals, resulted in a book written by the nine cardinals listed bellow.

Toppo
Martinez
Gagnon
Estevez
Schonborn
Varkey
Vidal
Spidlik
Trujillo
Mary, Unique Cooperator in the Redemption
Why Mary should be dogmatically declared as Coredeemer
Authored by: Nine Cardinals of the Church and other Major Marian Theologians. Each of the nineteen presentations are printed in the language originally given by the speakers: seven in English, four in Spanish and eight in Italian. It addresses many of the ecumenical concerns raised in the past.

This book along with a petition by over forty Cardinals and Bishops in support of the dogma was presented to Pope Benedict XVI on June 3, 2006, by... His Eminence, Telesphore Cardinal Toppo of Ranchi, India

Theological Symposia:

Here are just some of more than 60 Marian Theologians that have attended past International Coredemption Symposia in England and Fatima, Portugal, between 2000 and 2006:

Calkins
Llamas
Arellano
Manelli
Fehlner
Hnilica
Miravalle
Perotto
Hauke
Settimio
Manelli
Gherardini
Biestro

These symposia resulted in the following 6 books available from Marymedatrix.com with a 7th book on the way:

2000
2001
2002
2003
2004
2005

And, the 8th International Symposium in this series is coming up in July 17-20, 2007 in Fatima, Portugal. See Video

With over 10 Cardinals, 40 Bishops and 60 major Marian Theologians, these events clearly out-weigh the 1996 Czestachowa Commission which came to a negative conclusion but had serious deficiencies and no hierarchy in attendance.

Popular Conference:

Upcoming Marian Coredemption Conference in Greenwood, Indiana, Oct 13, 2007. See Video

Hahn
Miravalle
Fehlner
Burke
Evert
de Souza
Straub

Upcoming Video Series:

Stay tuned to Air Maria for Dr. Miravalle's new Series on Coredemption in June.

Miravalle

Petition Drive:

an initiative by Dr. Mark Miravalle at Vox Popoli for a popular petition to Pope Benedict XVI. Let your voice be heard!!

You can read the letter by Mark Miravalle about how you can submit your petition to the Holy Father and how these Bishops and Cardinals have already done so.

What the pope is saying about Mary

The Saints:

Mary is our Co-redemptrix with Jesus. She gave Jesus his body and suffered with him at the foot of the Cross.

Mary is the Mediatrix of all grace. She gave Jesus to us, and as our Mother she obtains for us all his graces.

Mary is our Advocate who prays to Jesus for us. It is only through the Heart of Mary that we come to the Eucharistic Heart of Jesus.

The papal definition of Mary as Co-redemptrix, Mediatrix, and Advocate will bring great graces to the Church.

All for Jesus through Mary.

God bless you,

M. Teresa, M.C.

Letter of Endorsement for the Papal Definition of Mary Co-redemptrix, Mediatrix, Advocate , Mother Teresa of Calcutta, August 14, 1993.

Read what 20th Century Saints and Blesseds have to say about this doctrine in this Hagiography compiled by Fr. Stefano Manelli, founder of the Franciscans of the Immaculate.

Saints:

Gemma Galgani
Pope
Pius X
Frances Xavier Cabrini
Pio of Pietrelcina
Leopold Mandic
Maximilian Mary Kolbe
Josemaria Escrivà
Edith Stein

Blesseds:

Elizabeth of the Trinity
Bartolo Longo
Luigi Orione
James Alberione
Ildephonse Cardinal Schuster

And, finally, read what many others are saying.

Mother Mary, in our troubled times may we have the grace to call you Coredeemer, Mediatrix and Advocate!

Ave Maria!


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology
KEYWORDS: coredemption; hierarchy; marian; mariandevotions; mary; petition
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1 posted on 05/16/2007 1:52:05 PM PDT by Friar Roderic Mary
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To: Friar Roderic Mary
Friar Roderic Mary
Since May 11, 2007

Welcome to Free Republic! Your first post, and it's a well-formatted thread! I assume you've registered here before?

2 posted on 05/16/2007 2:11:57 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (FR Member Alex Murphy: Declared Anathema By The Council Of Trent)
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To: Friar Roderic Mary

Ah yes. Marian coredemption.
The name however is misleading, making Mary co equal to Jesus. So unless they change the name, one doubts it will be passed.

The doctrine means that Mary as the first Christian and ineed all Christians are co partners in redeeming the world by our “yes” to God.

The biblical reference is in Paul, but I can’t find it right now...something about talking about his sufferings and how they help complete Christ’s redemptions.


3 posted on 05/16/2007 3:10:31 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: LadyDoc
The biblical reference is in Paul, but I can’t find it right now...something about talking about his sufferings and how they help complete Christ’s redemptions.
"Now I rejoice in what was suffered for you, and I fill up in my flesh what is still lacking in regard to Christ's afflictions, for the sake of his body, which is the church." Col 1:24 (NIV)
4 posted on 05/16/2007 4:43:03 PM PDT by eastsider
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To: Friar Roderic Mary; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...
Welcome to Free Republic and the Religion Forum!

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5 posted on 05/16/2007 4:50:54 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: Alex Murphy

Thanks, Alex! I’m glad you like the formatting, it took me for ever :)

Ave Maria!

Fra Roderic


6 posted on 05/16/2007 5:14:49 PM PDT by Friar Roderic Mary
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To: NYer

Our Lady of the Greenwood is MY parish!!! I am SO excited!


7 posted on 05/16/2007 5:50:20 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Prayers for Jemian's son,: Lord, please keep him safe and bring him home .)
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To: Friar Roderic Mary; kosta50; kawaii

With all due respect, I doubt you’ll see any dogmatic declarations coming out of Rome for the foreseeable future that could in any way adversely impact on the dialog between Rome and the Orthodox Churches. This one likely would. Assuming we can resolve the proper exercise of the Petrine Ministry, we will have quite enough to deal with discussing in a new Ecumenical Council Rome’s post 7th Ecumenical Council dogmas without adding more divisive issues.

Just as a matter of curiosity, what heresy or problem would a “Coredemptrix” dogma address? If none, what is the point of such a dogma?


8 posted on 05/16/2007 5:54:45 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Friar Roderic Mary; vox_freedom; Canticle_of_Deborah
Welcome to FR!

Mary, Mediatrix of all graces, help of Christians, pray for us.

Vatican II vs. The BVM - Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer

9 posted on 05/16/2007 6:14:11 PM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Kolokotronis; Friar Roderic Mary; kawaii
With all due respect, I doubt you’ll see any dogmatic declarations coming out of Rome for the foreseeable future that could in any way adversely impact on the dialog between Rome and the Orthodox Churches. This one likely would

Apparently, some are not at all concerned about ruining sincere efforts at re-uniting the Church, but are pressing forward with more innovations.

What most people don't realize is that had it not been for two 19th century dogmas, the Immaculate Conception and Papal Infallibility, the Church would probably have been re-united by now!

So, the real, almost unbridgeable rift did not exist until the 19th century. If this century produces Mary the Co-redemptrix dogma, that will put the last nail in the coffin of fulfilling Christ's commandment of a united Church.

10 posted on 05/16/2007 6:42:15 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Friar Roderic Mary

Coredemptrix - Latin for the woman with the redeemer.


11 posted on 05/16/2007 6:56:41 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: murphE; Friar Roderic Mary; vox_freedom; Canticle_of_Deborah
Welcome!

Roman Catholic tradition BTTT

12 posted on 05/16/2007 7:11:44 PM PDT by vox_freedom (John 16:2 yea, the hour come, that whosoever killeth you, will think that he doth a service to God)
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To: Friar Roderic Mary

Mary reigns! Mary rules! Mary conquers!

Mary reigns as Queen of Heaven!

Mary rules through her Immaculate Heart!

Mary conquers as the Immaculate Conception crushing the serpent!

Mary is SALVATRIX!!!

Co-Redemptrix + Mediatrix of All Graces = Salvatrix


13 posted on 05/16/2007 7:34:02 PM PDT by Macoraba
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To: murphE

Very nice, thanks.


14 posted on 05/16/2007 7:40:07 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (tired of voting for the lesser of two evils)
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To: kosta50; kawaii

“...but are pressing forward with more innovations.”

And an innovation, a particularly strange one at that, it is. One wonders what compels some Latins to press for not simply the toleration of this rather unpatristic notion, but indeed to dogmatize it. The position of the Most Holy Theotokos within The Church and hearts of the faithful is secure and has been for at least 1700 years, likely rather longer. The expression of that veneration and love in the Akathist Hymn seems to me quite sufficient, as it has been since +Romanos the Melodist penned it in the late 5th, early 6th century and in the kontakia, apolytikia, troparia and Divine Liturgies of The Church since the 4th century. The Mariology of The Church is clear. For the life of me I can see little purpose behind this activity unless it is to derail reunion with Orthodoxy.

“...I know from the writings of the holy Apostle Paul: the Holy Spirit declares that even the angels would be anathema if they should begin to preach another Gospel, introducing some new teaching.” +Maximos the Confessor


15 posted on 05/16/2007 7:50:45 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis
The position of the Most Holy Theotokos within The Church and hearts of the faithful is secure and has been for at least 1700 years, likely rather longer.

What is the Orthodox view of the role of Mary, and how does it differ from that of the Catholics and the Protestants?

16 posted on 05/16/2007 7:59:33 PM PDT by jude24 (Seen in Beijing: "Shangri-La is in you mind, but your Buffalo is not.")
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To: Kolokotronis; kosta50; LadyDoc

I believe BXVI has already rejected this. The concept is theologically fuzzy, not traditional, and should not go any further.


17 posted on 05/16/2007 8:08:57 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius

You mean Coredemptrix or Mediatrix?


18 posted on 05/16/2007 8:21:44 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: kosta50
Ave Maria!

Good to here from the Eastern Orthodox. In regard to the unbridgeable gap not existing until the 18th century, why did the gap not get bridged in the 800 years prior to the definition of the Immaculate Conception? I think Our Lady is the common ground between the East and the West. Perhaps honoring her with this dogma is something we can get together on.

Ave Maria!

19 posted on 05/16/2007 8:36:21 PM PDT by Friar Roderic Mary
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To: Kolokotronis
Ave Maria!

I am certainly no theologian. In fact, I am a seminary drop-out, but I will, for the sake of discussion, add my two cents. I am very interested in seeing the East and West be reunited. I am a Protestant convert and see unity as very important and especially as a sign for the non believers to see that Christ is sent by the Father, John 17 et al. Perhaps there is already to much to deal with doctrinally but this is the point, the primary issue between the east and the west is jurisdictional, as you point out in your comment.

Sure there is the Photian based spat over the Philioque and, yes, the Immaculate Conception, but most of the anger surrounding these hinges on the fact that the Pope declared these things with little or no agreement or dialog with the East. Sure there are some modern dyed-in-the-wool Photians among the Easter Orthodox theologians (Losski and Clement to name two) but there are also some theological giants, some of your best Fathers of the East such as St. Epipiphius St. Cyril or Alexandria who are in agreement with the Philogue. As such, i think the greatest part of the battle is a question of authority.

And, I can understand the difficulty in regard to authority. There are sins on both sides. However, we need help from Our Lady. We have already waited almost 1000 years to resolve this split, but we need Our Lady’s help NOW. By all indications this is Satan’s hour for battle (the big battle) and to be able to do battle with him we must be fully sons and daughters of Mary (Gen 3:15, Apoc 12:1ff) and so be brothers and sisters of Christ. And this doctrine of the Coredemption is a great way to honor our Mother. And if the devil is the great divider, turning us into deviled ham, if you will, then perhaps the first fruit of our battle with him will be the healing of the rift between east and west.

The majority of all Christians are in one single denomination. If we can’t proclaim Mary as Coredeemer as a fully united Church (which would, indeed, be preferable) should not the majority go ahead and do so as a second best plan? And do so for the sake of the whole Church?

At any rate, I believe once we resolve the juridical issues we can resolve all the doctrinal issues easily enough, be it the Philioque, the Immaculate Conception or even the Coredemption. After all, do you really disagree with the doctrine of the Coredemption? Isn’t it just saying that we all must take up our cross and follow Christ? That we are coredeemers with Christ? and Mary is our exemplar?

Your Brother in Christ and Mary,

Fra Roderic, Ave Maria!

20 posted on 05/16/2007 8:36:48 PM PDT by Friar Roderic Mary
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