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To: annalex; Mad Dawg

“Is this in itself already foreign to the Orthodox?”

Yes.


8 posted on 05/08/2007 7:26:04 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis; kosta50

What is the Orthodox grasp on faith and reason?


15 posted on 05/09/2007 7:22:28 AM PDT by annalex
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To: Kolokotronis; annalex; Mad Dawg

Based on the writings from NewAdvent, the Catholic Church looks upon Anselm’s writings on the Atonement as kind of the genesis of thought but not the final word. It would be interesting to compare current Orthodox and Catholic perspectives. While we often discuss differences between these two churches (church authority, the filoque, etc), the atonement doesn’t seem to be one of them. Is there a difference in views?


34 posted on 05/10/2007 9:36:01 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: Kolokotronis; Mad Dawg
Here's a related question. St. Justin Martyr wrote dialogue with Trypho, where the same methodological device is used: an opponent is presenting an unbeliever's view and St. Justin responds with the orthodox view.

Now, one may point out that Boso is completely fictional and Trypho could have been an actual opponent. But it does not seem to be a distinction strong enough to condemn the dialog method as "foreign". If you are with me so far, we are left with

As the right order requires us to believe the deep things of Christian faith before we undertake to discuss them by reason; so to my mind it appears a neglect if, after we are established in the faith, we do not seek to understand what we believe. Therefore, since I thus consider myself to hold the faith of our redemption, by the prevenient grace of God, so that, even were I unable in any way to understand what I believe, still nothing could shake my constancy; I desire that you I should discover to me, what, as you know, many besides myself ask

Is this breaking up the faith stage and the reason stage "foreign"?

50 posted on 05/10/2007 5:08:05 PM PDT by annalex
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