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To: Salvation

I'm a Presbyterian-becoming-an-Anglican, so I hope you don't mind if I pipe in.

I wholly agree with the article--and other than C. S. Lewis's (old) essay "Preistesses in the Church"(which really is superb) it's an aspect of the "women's issue" I've never seen addressed by conservative Protestants. Even in classical Protestant circles (though of course more in more liturgical churches) the mediator-function of a minister is acknowleged, if sometimes begrudgingly (from a priesthood-of -all-believers perspective). Ancient Israel was referred to as a "kingdom of priests" and yet they had formal priests, too, so I see no reason why--while affirming no two classes of people (those with a calling and those without...ALL have a calling, to do what God wants you to do)--the go-between nature of clergy cannot be recognized--and why a woman should not be in such a position over the whole Church (in St. Paul's words "I do not permit a woman to teach or have authority over a man" (I Tim. 2:12))

Naturally, coming from the Presbyterian/evangelical Anglican perspective, I'll put scripture first, over reason (found in this article) and tradition, though, being more Anglican, I'll not neglect as 2nd and 3rd, reasonable and traditional arguments as well.

You'd be surprised by the number of thoughtful conservative evangelical Reformed theological types (I'm a seminarian in a conservative Presbyterian school) who firmly believe in male leadership in the Church. I'd say among the under 35 crowd, it is largely not even a major issue--so deep is the conviction on it. Funny how solid reason, true tradition, and scriptural exegesis can end in the same place, isn't it my Roman Catholic brethren?


16 posted on 03/08/2007 4:34:34 PM PST by AnalogReigns
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To: AnalogReigns

At one point during our search for a church home after leaving (what used to be called) ECUSA we spent some time with a superb PCA church. The church included several faculty members and recent graduates of the Reformed Theological Seminary, and was wholly committed to a high caliber of instruction. With this instruction came absolute clarity on the separate roles of men and women in the church. While we eventually realized that we could never in good faith adopt reformed theology, we have always been grateful for the excellent instruction we received while there.


19 posted on 03/08/2007 8:00:39 PM PST by Huber (And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. - John 1:5)
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To: AnalogReigns

**(I'm a seminarian in a conservative Presbyterian school) who firmly believe in male leadership in the Church. I'd say among the under 35 crowd, it is largely not even a major issue--so deep is the conviction on it. Funny how solid reason, true tradition, and scriptural exegesis can end in the same place, isn't it my Roman Catholic brethren?**

I think the younger crowd in all these denominations is coming back to the strictness and basics of our forefathers. This is also very true with the Catholic seminarians, by the way.


21 posted on 03/08/2007 8:17:10 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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