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To: Kolokotronis
and accepted only if the hierarch involved chose to accept the decision.

Do you think Paul of Samosata, bishop of Antioch, accepted the decision to be removed from his office. No, he did not. Soldiers had to be brought in to forcibly remove him from the church building. That was almost 80 years before Sardica.

Sardica did not *give* the bishop of Rome any authority. It recognized his authority, as the authority to whom accused bishops could appeal. And throughout the early church we see examples of accused or troubled bishops and priests appealing to the bishop of Rome. Have you read the documents from Sardica? I have.

It was Rome which introduced dogmatic innovations in derogation of the declarations of the Ecumenical Councils,

Name one such derogation.

It was Rome which concluded that it had a monopoly on the Holy Spirit.

Name one place where Rome claims to have a monopoly on the Holy Spirit. Can't do it? Ok, now retract your ridiculous straw man. (It wouldn't be your first straw man either; NYer just had to correct your claim that the Pope makes himself out equal to God, as if you didn't really know better.)

The excesses of Rome lead to the Protestant Reformation.

That's a red herring. Instead of pointing to the Protestants, let's focus on the schism between the Orthodox and the Catholics.

I have to run. Talk to you later.

-A8

33 posted on 02/04/2007 7:46:11 AM PST by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: adiaireton8; D-fendr; TexConfederate1861

"Name one such derogation."

Did they leave out the filioque in in RCIA? How about the Immaculate Conception and Papal Infallibility? Created grace?

"Name one place where Rome claims to have a monopoly on the Holy Spirit. Can't do it?"

Vatican I. Want some more?

"Ok, now retract your ridiculous straw man. (It wouldn't be your first straw man either; NYer just had to correct your claim that the Pope makes himself out equal to God, as if you didn't really know better.)"

Isn't that what the Vicar of Christ on Earth means, God's viceroy in effect, A? According to you guys, Christ handed over the keys to heaven to +Peter. I suppose that means the Pope gets to decide who gets in, or whether God gets out? That's not a strawman, A. That's what underlay the ecclesiological heresy which forced Rome out of The Church and ultimately lead to the Protestant Revolution.


34 posted on 02/04/2007 10:27:43 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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