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To: Vicomte13
Of course I would believe.

That's good. I fear some people put to much faith in things. When those things disappear, their faith goes with it. That is not the faith of the Old or New Testament.

Hbr 11:1 ¶ Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

The Shroud is important in a scientific age, because for MOST people today the battle is not between WHICH Christianity, but between secularism and any kind of faith.

I really don't know that much about the shroud. If it can be used to help bring people to Christ, I'm all for it. If it just creates shroud worshipers, I'm not. I do believe in miricles, but I also believe they have a very limited effect. Jesus healed people in front of the Pharisees, and the Pharisees still didn't believe in Christ.

Sincerely
554 posted on 01/26/2007 6:43:15 PM PST by ScubieNuc (I have no tagline.)
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To: ScubieNuc

Agreed.

The Shroud of Turin (and its companion, the Oviedo Cloth), are fascinating precisely BECAUSE of the determined, even frenzied, efforts to disprove them as possibly the actual burial cloths of Jesus, and show them medieval frauds.

There is layer upon layer of dishonest or erroneous science that has gone into the study of the Shroud, which only later gets kicked over by better and more careful studies.

One can see in this tug of war over the Shroud the desperation that it causes in some.

At one point, the Editor of Scientific American actually wrote in a letter 'It is the policy of Scientific American that the Shroud of Turin does not exist.'
THINK ABOUT THAT for a moment!
What an astonishing statement from the chief of a scientific magazine: that a material fact of the physical world was going to be ignored completely, treated as though it doesn't EXIST!

Why would that be?

The answer is that the more one delves into the forensics of it, the more spooky and supernatural the image appears to be.

The Shroud of Turin is a threat to the skeptical mind, because the science tells us that it is, quite simply, a probabalistic miracle.

But there it is, tangible and real.


555 posted on 01/26/2007 7:16:19 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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