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e-mail | 1/07/2007 | Sarah Hey

[narses]

That depends, how much of what Saint John of Matha (founder of the Trinitarians) believed about the Dogmas of the Faith almost 1,000 years ago would you disagree with?

Asked differently, where do we agree and where do we disagree? (Odd was the word you used, so I carried that forward in the conversation - if you find that offensive, simply substitute 'different'.)

[xzins]

We're referring specifically to the Godhead. I'm sure there are other doctrines on which Matha and I (a Protestant) disagree.

[ken5050]

Bump for later read

[ichabod1]

I understand that there is also an Anglican Use liturgy within the Catholic Church, wherein the Book of Common Prayer is used for the Mass (with minor updates). So there is no need to lose the liturgy Anglicans may be familiar with.

Asa recent Catholic convert, I'm getting involved with this indult. We have a Book of Divine Worship, that seems to me to be an embodiment of the idea of having a BCP for our most definitely Roman Catholic parish. It is modeled on the 1549 BCP. The Eucharist we use is the Roman Canon. We say everything required by our Archbishop in our Masses. Somehow, while having an Anglican look and feel, it is more Roman than almost any Roman Catholic Mass I've attended since my Confirmation.

For example, the homily last weekend was on The Rock we have in Rome. It was about heterodoxy and how Anglicanism is tearing itself apart over it, but with our Rock in Rome heterodoxy will not carry the day when it rears its head in the Catholic Church. I'm really liking it.

[ichabod1]

Dogmas of the Catholic

These are mostly contained in the Creed and we don't argue over them that much with our Protestant brethren, am I not correct? It's Doctrine that contains most of our points of contention. Course there is that little Filioque problem with the Orthodox.

[narses]

Would that were so. There are many revealed truths formally defined by the Church (Dogmas) that we and our separated brethren argue about. As an example, the Real Presence - an absolutely central truth held by the Church from the Last Supper onwards (and still held by the vast majority of Christians throughout the world, as the Roman Catholic and Orthodox communities dwarf the remain thousands of splinter groups that our separated brothers adhere to).

[narses]

sionnsar, see the above comments. Ichabod, welcome home! Can you describe your impressions of your journey for those who might see them here?

[sionnsar]

I saw that. Encouraging.

[kalee]

I don't think she knows who HE is. She referred to Him as Jesus our mother.