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To: Rhadaghast

If you know in your heart that you are saved, and you ACT like it, that is enough.

Many a "saved" Christian has gone on to be a murderer or a serial adulterer. If they do not ask the Lord's forgiveness, they will be separated from the Lord in the next life, that is sure.


175 posted on 12/31/2006 6:48:01 PM PST by Nabber
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To: Nabber

Rom 5:1-3
Eph 2:8-9
Rom 8:38-39
1 Jn 5:11-12
2 Cor 5:21


Once saved with eternal life, you are eternally saved. There is nothing that will separate you from the love of God. Suggesting any sin will separate us denies the faith of Christ and is blasphemous.


179 posted on 12/31/2006 8:53:09 PM PST by Cvengr
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To: Nabber
I don't see support for the separation of a Christian after salvation due to Murder or Serial Adultery. I do see clearly the separation for lack of forgiveness. Jesus gave us two statements strongly suggesting this.

One was after the our father:
The other was after the parable of the servant owing the king a huge debt. Both site forgiveness being required to continue with God's in fellowship.

Do you have a biblical reference for the others?

Also a real encounter with God does not allow for continued unrepentant sin. What I have noticed is that the people 'getting saved' through evangelists; are doing it because of emotional manipulation; very akin to the religious fervor in some healing ministries. I just recently encounter this with the son of a friend. He stated his conversion, lived with it for 6-9 months, then stopped the reconciliation with his wife and moved in with another women. I cannot not support always saved in that type of circumstance.

I myself tried to leave Christianity, or neglect it completely, but God would not allow my to leave. He loved me until I have returned and now avidly pursue Him.

The difference I believe is that I have salvation, and am being sanctified by a loving gentle pushing and guidance of the Holy Spirit. He is regularly speaking and communicating to me to lead me on.
194 posted on 01/01/2007 9:54:57 AM PST by Rhadaghast (Yeshua haMashiach hu Adonai Tsidkenu)
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