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To: Dr. Eckleburg
And yet we have posts on this thread ridiculing "substitutionary atonement" and sentences like "He paid the price." Very puzzling.

Not really, think in terms of those that are raised inside an institution where the authorities inside the institution tell them all power and understanding is only invested in them and if you leave, or disobey, you will die. In that environment it truly is surprising any open their eyes and see the error.

5,661 posted on 01/13/2007 7:04:57 AM PST by wmfights (LUKE 9:49-50 , MARK 9:38-41)
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To: wmfights
think in terms of those that are raised inside an institution where the authorities inside the institution tell them all power and understanding is only invested in them and if you leave, or disobey, you will die.

WIll all those in this conversation who were ever told that all power and understanding was invested in your institutional authorities please raise your hands?

I'm a convert, wmfights. I converted in middle age. I don't meet your description. I don't think any Catholic or Orthodox person here was told that all power and understanding was invested in their "authorities".

What continues to fascinate me in this conversation is the number of Protestants who "know" things that aren't true not only about either doctrine or praxis in the Catholic Church but also about my experiences!

And then they say WE make stuff up!

5,662 posted on 01/13/2007 7:16:08 AM PST by Mad Dawg ('Shut up,' he explained.)
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To: wmfights

Not really, think in terms of those that are raised inside an institution where the authorities inside the institution tell them all power and understanding is only invested in them and if you leave, or disobey, you will die. In that environment it truly is surprising any open their eyes and see the error.
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INDEED.


5,699 posted on 01/13/2007 9:27:35 AM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIShe ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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