[bornacatholic]

One should not condemn Luther personally for his "pecca fortiter" advice, it was an accurate exposition of his soteriology.

* I do :)

His was a material and formal heresy and it, repeatedly, had been explained to him how it was heretical.

At the end of their debate, Eck calmly noted Luther was opposing the Ecumenical Councils, in addition to Scripture, and so Luther was to Eck as a publican.

You'll get from me a Gregorian Chanted AMEN for most of your post but not a single note of

Sympathy for the devil

for the part of your post I quoted...:)

[annalex]

His was a material and formal heresy and it, repeatedly, had been explained to him how it was heretical.

I know it was. I just got done calling it satanic and protomahomedan. My point was that no matter how gross the heresy, an accurate exposition of the heretical belief in itself is not a personal fault.