Skip to comments.REFORMATION SUNDAY (Reformed Caucus)
Posted on 10/29/2006 4:41:14 AM PST by Gamecock
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Thank you! It is a profound re-statement of the teachings of Jesus that still echoes after 489 years and has been a sure guide in the way to Heaven.
So what happened? The UK, Scandinavia, the Netherlands (to the worst possible extent), and Germany (not quite so much), are blazing, all right ... but that fire isn't "the biblical doctrines of grace," but a fire that comes from a totally different place.
Your "reformation" doesn't seem very healthy on its home turf anymore, does it? Instead of sending missionaries to convert Catholics in Latin America, maybe you need to be sending missionaries to convert the nominal Protestants in Amsterdam and London.
Many of those who held to those doctrines of Grace were chased out by the Roman Catholic Church. The result is the United States.
God always works through a remnant. Not all follow the truth, many just follow because it is cultural or of social benefit.
Not all of Israel were of God; not all of the visible small c catholic church are of God; not all that claim to be Christians are. Just as not all Protestants are Reformed. Not all that rejected the Catholic Falicies are Reformed, as in following the doctrines of the Reformers. The JW and Mormons may be Protestant, as in protesting the Old Roman beliefs, but not Reformed.
Just as in Anatolia, the once strong Bible Belt of the Christian Church, the faith is a shadow of its former self. Things change. You must agree not all that are Catholic are truly Catholic, no? Even in France, once a center of Catholicivity (tm), your church is failing, whilst the Evangelical church in the US is growing.
And again, this is a caucus thread. Light, not flame or keep out.
Not one word about this in church this morning, except what came from my mouth. Not pleased, but not surprised.
"Many of those who held to those doctrines of Grace were chased out by the Roman Catholic Church. The result is the United States."
There is no basis for this blasphemy?
"St. Bartholomew's Day massacre
"In what became known as the St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre of 24 August 17 September 1572, Catholics killed thousands of Huguenots in Paris. Similar massacres took place in other towns in the weeks following, with an estimated total death toll of 110,000. An amnesty granted in 1573 pardoned the perpetrators."
Read your History of the U.S.
So, where in Scripture is "Reformation Sunday"?
Other than the Huguenots, about whom are you speaking?
The state churches in the Netherlands, Scandinavia, and the UK are all Protestant. Anyone who was "chased out" of those countries after about 1600 was "chased out" by professing Protestants. Catholicism was illegal in the UK until the 1820s, and illegal in, e.g., Sweden until the mid-1800's.
If you want to point out that most of the French Protestants came to America, that's true, but I wasn't talking about France. (Christianity, of any variety, has been in trouble in France since before the revolution.) I was talking about countries where the "reformation" triumphed, completely and totally.
There were plenty of recognizably Protestant Britons, Swedes, and Dutch in 1900. The didn't emigrate to the USA, and they weren't chased out by the bad old Catholics. Maybe you guys ought to try a little introspection for a change, and ask yourselves what happened.
As I pointed out, the Catholic Church in France has been in deep trouble since 1650 or so, and the rot accelerated after the revolution. The only reason France wasn't de-Christianized as effectively by 1850 as Russia was by 1980 was that the atheists were only really in charge for a few years, not over 70.
But more to the point, you know, the guys you're admiring on this thread called Catholicism the "synagogue of Satan". The True Faith [tm] ought to be able to do considerably better than a synagogue of Satan. Opining that the the "SofS" isn't too healthy herself doesn't cut it.
"So, where in Scripture is "Reformation Sunday"?
NO WHERE,THAT IS THE DAY LUTHER POSTED THE TRETISE AT WITTENBERG,SEE THE ARTICLE.
"Where is "5 SOLAS" stated in Scripture?"
SEE THE ARTICLE!
I'M SORRY THAT I DID NOT KNOW IT WAS THE QUESTION.
Scripture Alone. This was the fundamental point in dispute in the Protestant Reformation. It is taught in 2 Tim. 3:16-17; I Cor.4:6; Acts 17:11; Isa.8:20, etc.
Sola scriptura (Latin By Scripture alone) is one of five important slogans of the Protestant Reformation in the 16th century. It meant that Scripture is the only infallible rule for deciding issues of faith and practices that involve doctrines. The intention of the Reformation was to correct the Catholic Church by appeal to the uniqueness of the Bible's authority, and to reject Christian tradition as a source of original authority alongside the Bible or in addition to the Bible.
ARE YOU CATHOLIC OR JUST ASKING FOR EDIFICATION.
YOU CAN LOOK AT MY PROFILE PAGE TO SEE MY BACKGROUND.
Campion and adiaireton8 are ignoring the spirit of the Caucus.
I believe this is the second time Campion has done this, that I have noticed,
I would never think to go and disrupt any of the several Catholic devotional or caucus threads that show up daily. I can ignore them, and I guess asking for the same consideration is not realistic.
Please mighty Moderator, could you discuss this with them?
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