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To: adiaireton8
People practicing Santeria, for example, are claimed by the Roman Catholic church as full Catholics. Nobody really has any idea what is really practiced by the adherents unless you are one. Rome turns a blind eye just to keep a foothold, for purely political reasons.

When the Church was or is communicating with its subjects in Latin, none of them know what is really written or said. Thus you need your mediators to interpret.

The whole Mass thing is purely mystical and has no authority from the scriptures. There is a whole section of Catholic belief devoted entirely to mysticism, even today, and encouraged.

1,411 posted on 10/25/2006 12:40:58 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (why is it so difficult to understand)
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To: 1000 silverlings; adiaireton8
The whole Mass thing is purely mystical and has no authority from the scriptures.

Have you EVER been to a Mass? It is straight out of scripture, so much so that Luther and Calvin barely changed it. What is so "mystical" about Catholicism? That we believe that Jesus meant what He said when He said, "This is My Body"? Is that really any more "mystical" than the Virgin Birth, the Resurrection or the Pentecost?

1,413 posted on 10/25/2006 12:46:26 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: 1000 silverlings
People practicing Santeria, for example, are claimed by the Roman Catholic church as full Catholics.

Where does the Catholic Church claim this? Can you point me to some official document?

Nobody really has any idea what is really practiced by the adherents unless you are one.

I cannot determine to whom you are referring with the term 'adherents': do you mean Catholics, or those practicing Santeria?

When the Church was or is communicating with its subjects in Latin, none of them know what is really written or said. Thus you need your mediators to interpret.

There is some truth to that, but I don't see how that pertains to your original claim.

The whole Mass thing is purely mystical and has no authority from the scriptures.

Wow. Let me recommend two books: The Mass of the Early Christians by Mike Aquilina, and The Lamb's Supper: The Mass as Heaven on Earth by Scott Hahn. Both should clear up your misconception of the mass.

There is a whole section of Catholic belief devoted entirely to mysticism, even today, and encouraged.

And, what's wrong with mysticism?

-A8

1,419 posted on 10/25/2006 1:07:59 PM PDT by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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