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To: livius
"... muslims cheerfully tell them..that their view of Jesus is exactly the same as the Muslim view."- would this be the time to show an "individual Catholic", John Paul II kissing the Koran? Yeah, I guess you could say it is a much greater problem than anybody admits!
11 posted on 10/11/2006 11:10:33 AM PDT by Bainbridge
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To: Bainbridge; sitetest; BlackElk; wideawake; don-o; sandyeggo
"... muslims cheerfully tell them..that their view of Jesus is exactly the same as the Muslim view."- would this be the time to show an "individual Catholic", John Paul II kissing the Koran?

*No, sister. That would be a nasty non sequitur.

Unlike the Muslim telling the Christian they both have the same view of Jesus, the photo of the Pope expressing an Eastern gesture of thanks, the kiss, upon receipt of the gift, the Koran, in no way approximates the prior action.

That is, it does not unless one thinks the Pope kised the Koran for some other reason. Perhaps you can tell us the reason the Pope kissed the koran.

A picture is worth a thousand words. In this instance, the millions of words spoken and written by this Pope, the Vicar of Christ, are all, I guess, dissolved into nothingess by his one gesture of gratitude.

Jesus was betrayed by a kiss. It somehow seems fitting others betray the truth about the Pope due to a kiss.

13 posted on 10/11/2006 1:26:39 PM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: Bainbridge

We don't need that picture again, but yes, I agree that it was horrible. I think JPII was well-meaning but totally clueless on the "ecumenical" front. You probably haven't seen the pictures of him at some of the bizarro syncretist masses his liturgist designed, and we don't need to see those again, either.

I don't think he meant to give his stamp of approval to Islam, but I do think he didn't fully weigh his gestures at times and was so focused on the media moment that he ignored the doctrinal implications (which, after all, were supposed to be his job).


19 posted on 10/12/2006 12:49:16 PM PDT by livius
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