Don't feed the troll
Posted on 08/18/2006 10:52:01 AM PDT by NYer
Tantum ergo Sacramentum
Veneremur cernui:
Et antiquum documentum
Novo cedat ritui:
Praestet fides supplementum
Sensuum defectui.
Genitori, Genitoque
Laus et iubilatio,
Salus, honor, virtus quoque
Sit et benedictio:
Procedenti ab utroque
Compar sit laudatio.
Amen.
V. Panem de coelo praestitisti eis.
R. Omne delectamentum in se habentem.
Oremus: Deus, qui nobis sub sacramento mirabili, passionis tuae memoriam reliquisti: tribue, quaesumus, ita nos corporis et sanguinis tui sacra mysteria venerari, ut redemptionis tuae fructum in nobis iugiter sentiamus. Qui vivis et regnas in saecula saeculorum.
R. Amen
Down in Adoration falling,
Lo! the sacred Host we hail,
Lo! oe'r ancient forms departing
Newer rites of grace prevail;
Faith for all defects supplying,
Where the feeble senses fail.
To the everlasting Father,
And the Son Who reigns on high
With the Holy Spirit proceeding
Forth from each eternally,
Be salvation, honor blessing,
Might and endless majesty.
Amen.
V. Thou hast given them bread from heaven
R. Having within it all sweetness
Let us pray: O God, who in this wonderful Sacrament left us a memorial of Thy Passion: grant, we implore Thee, that we may so venerate the sacred mysteries of Thy Body and Blood, as always to be conscious of the fruit of Thy Redemption. Thou who livest and reignest forever and ever.
R. Amen
I was invited to a Catholic service by a good Catholic girl...We had gone out on Sat. night, got totally wasted but managed to make it to church on Sun...
She, nor the priest told me anything about the Catholic service...
I've read that over 70% of young to middle age Catholics do not believe in the presence of Jesus in the Eucharist...And over 50% of regular church going Catholics don't believe it either...So don't get uppity with me...Clean up your own house first...
Went out on a Saturday night, got wasted, then went to Mass?!?
Um, now I see why you're confused. That is not exactly a "good Catholic girl."
And, if NO ONE believed, the Truth would still be the Truth.
Then how could you (and your church) not believe once saved, always saved???
Iscool, with each post it becomes more obvious that, as you stated, you know nothing about Catholicism. That's not your fault, but, despite that, it seems you want to argue with us all about it. This has become pointless. If you really do care to understand, go buy yourself a Catechism, it's a beautiful book and will answer all your questions, and it has thousands of scriptural references. God bless you.
Don't feed the troll
Your use of "good Catholic girl" is highly subjective. The Church teaches us to consume in moderation.
I've read that over 70% of young to middle age Catholics do not believe in the presence of Jesus in the Eucharist...And over 50% of regular church going Catholics don't believe it either
Liars figure and figures lie. The Truth taught by the Church doesn't change according to how many believe.
I may be getting the wrong picture but I don't think so...
I went to a 'Vegas' day at a local Catholic church...With a large statue of Mary out in front...( Lev 26:1 I am the Lord your God. You shall not make to yourselves any idol or graven thing: neither shall you erect pillars, nor set up a remarkable stone in your land, to adore it. For I am the Lord your God.)
Had a chicken dinner and beer was served out of a keg...When I left, many were well on their way to being drunk, including the priest...And it was still the afternoon...
I think I got the correct picture...
~~~~Liars figure and figures lie. The Truth taught by the Church doesn't change according to how many believe.~~~~
You'll have to read down a ways...Seems to have come from your church...Don't know if they're lying or not...
http://www.doy.org/viewpast.asp?ID=2005
Because I disagree with you and use the bible to back it up I'm a troll???
Grow up...
As I've found in previous thread, engaging Iscool in a rational discussion is an exercise in futility, and more often than not lead on into the sin of anger.
He reminds me of a little boy who says outrageous things because he feels no one is paying him enough attention.
It is far better to pray for his conversion.
Our Father contradicts several aspects of Propestant theology. The necessity of works of charity is one. The continuing rather than one time salvation is another (temptation, deliver from evil). The existence of free will and our ability to conform our will to the Divine Will is another (your will be done on earth). We should not neglect the hint at the Eucharist in the "supersubstantial bread".
The first sentence: According to a New York Times/CBS poll
That you can't tell the truth during discussions external to scripture, is indicative that your novel scriptural interpretations can't be trusted.
Titanites and Annalex,
Iscool is now desperately using straw-man arguments and talking round in circles. I'm taking PanzerKardinal's advice. Thanks all for your insightful comments, see ya on another thread!
It has been a matter of curiosity for me how, when, and why the conclusion of The Lord's Prayer was introduced. The irony is remarkable.
I have been taught to make use of the conclusion, so am familiar with it. Of course the entire prayer is so familiar as to induce laziness and perfunctory recitation. Shame on us all.
If the conclusion has Eastern roots in the early Church I am not put off by it. It never struck me as arbitrary or meaningless in the first place. But the Prayer itself forms and states what is a reality more sure and certain than so many realities that appeal to our natural state. God prefers that we consider Him our Father, and He has placed before us what is most important amidst the hustle and bustle of daily life. Wow!
As a life long Lutheran I have grown to appreciate the respect for the biblical texts and full history of the Church demonstrated by so many who consider themselves members of the Church of Rome. These days - perhaps as a result of aging on my part - it is not as difficult as it once was to be charitable toward those who struggle with the biblical texts and their meaning. I trust we are all beggars.
Could be because there's no rationale in your position...You can't discuss the bible because it's against your position...Your only position is that your organization has been doing what it's doing for a long time so it must be right...
So you get angry and leave....
You want to come on a public thread and claim no one can go to heaven without your church, you're going to have to defend your position...
Whatever...
I'm Catholic (received this past Easter), and I find the Latin just as meaningless as "Iscool"---so it has zip to do with "anti-Catholicism".
English may be "substantially derived from Latin", but IT AIN'T LATIN.
Thanks for posting it in Latin.
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