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To: BlackElk

Oh so you're falling back on that tired old bullsh*t that if I didn't support the southern rebellion then I just have to be a liberal? Sorry, I thought you were being serious here. I see now just how wrong I was.


176 posted on 08/18/2006 6:23:12 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
Actually, I am falling back on the obvious truth that there was absolutely nothing vaguely conservative about Abraham Lincoln, his civil war, his blatant hypocrisy in having been George McGovern's peace creep role model during his single term in the House (This chamber stands knee deep in blood, blah, blah, blah...) as to the Mexican War but then perpetrated the mass slaughter of southerners resulting in the mass killing of northerners by southern self-defense all in the name of a blatantly unconstitutional notion that no state could escape once it had ratified the Constitution which did not in any event deprive any state of the right to leave.

AND, as I have in the past, I have asked your "conservative" credentials which understandably you refuse to provide. This IS a conservative website. It is natural to demand of someone who is an enthusiast for a president whose radical leftism made FDR, Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Jimmuh Peanut, and even the Arkansas Antichrist look somewhat conservative by comparison. Provide credentials or be judged accordingly. My part of Illinois is quite conservative, BTW. Sorry about Chicagoland.

My Yankees are spending the weekend beating the used bull food out of the Bosox so I will be taking my time giving your one substantive post its due. Your good news (Encyclopedia Brittanica, 1973 ed., Vol. 22, p. 858) will be that Vallandigham was no longer sitting in Congress when illegally exiled by Old Scratch (Lincoln). Instead, he was merely an American citizen arrested and expelled to the Confederacy for expressing his views who then voluntarily went north to Canada before returning to Ohio as a trial attorney. So, Lincoln massacred the First Amendment rights of Vallandigham. You must be sooooo proud.

Also, the Constitution says what it means and means what it says, SCOTUS fantasies and CJ John Marshall notwithstanding. IF SCOTUS rules that the constitution prohibits secession when there is not one word in the constitution so providing but there IS a Tenth Amendment saying in plain English what no Lincoln sycophant can ever quite understand: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively to the people." Secession is a power. It is a power not delegated to the federal government which unconstitutionally created West Virginia during Lincoln's tenure while denying a right to secession. It is a power NOT prohibited to the States. It is therefore reserved to the States respectively such as Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia, Tennessee, Arkansas, Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana and Texas. Florida included Fort Pickens. South Carolina included Fort Sumter.

Lincoln was governed by the Constitution of the United States as no Confederate officer was. Unless you have some Confederate constitutional provision prohibiting an income tax of a draft, there is no legal or moral equivalency. I don't like drafts or income taxes but they appear to have been legal for the Confederacy and were prohibited to the "union." The income tax was NEVER constitutional in the "union" as SCOTUS ruled in the 1890's in litigation brought out of New York. It was a power of direct taxation not granted to the feds at any time prior to the enactment of Amendment XVI on 2/25/1913. (Connecticut, Rhode Island and Utah may take pride in never ratifying the infernal XVIth amendment).

More during or after the Boston Massacre being perpetrated by the New York Yankees or, if time permits, during the massacre.

180 posted on 08/18/2006 11:29:27 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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