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Retired rector says church should stop rejecting gays, lesbians (gay agenda alert)
Lincoln Journal Star ^ | 8-5-2006 | Bob Reeves

Posted on 08/05/2006 6:22:00 AM PDT by stan_sipple

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Amazing how church liberals are able to get into the Apostle Paul's head!
1 posted on 08/05/2006 6:22:05 AM PDT by stan_sipple
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Retired rector rectum says church should stop rejecting gays, lesbians (gay agenda alert)

/not sarc

2 posted on 08/05/2006 6:25:33 AM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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Churches should read the literal Greek for what Paul was saying about sodomy, pretty specific I think for one the liberals say was ignorant of homosexuality


3 posted on 08/05/2006 6:29:44 AM PDT by stan_sipple
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"Jesus himself never mentions homosexuality,..."

This one again? He also never mentioned zoophilia, pederastry, necrophilia, and smoking crack.


4 posted on 08/05/2006 6:34:39 AM PDT by OpusatFR ( ALEA IACTA EST. We have just crossed the Rubicon.)
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" but he reached out to people who were rejected by society, he said. “He spoke to their needs, their hunger to know God and offered them acceptance.”


Ummm..Jesus reached out to sinners who REPENTED their sins, and were ready to stop sinning ( Asin "Go and sin no more"), and Jesus condemned their sins, and those who continued to sin.
This so-called "priest"is suggesting that the Christian churches welcome in gays, even as they continue to commit the sin of homosexuality.
What kind of priest is this anyways? A priest of the devil?
5 posted on 08/05/2006 6:37:28 AM PDT by Jameison
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didnt Jesus say he associated with the unclean because "only the sick need a doctor?"


6 posted on 08/05/2006 6:38:59 AM PDT by stan_sipple
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I say we welcome in compulsive gamblers, heroin addicts, illegal immigrants, Pimps etc


7 posted on 08/05/2006 6:39:54 AM PDT by stan_sipple
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Oh yes.
That is the the Godless Church of liberalism for you right there.
The Godless liberals Ann Coulter was talking about.
8 posted on 08/05/2006 6:58:34 AM PDT by Jameison
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didnt Jesus say he associated with the unclean because "only the sick need a doctor?"

Absolutely - we should not hesitate to associate with homosexuals, but we should never champion their lifestyle as correct or acceptable.

9 posted on 08/05/2006 7:03:43 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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Another pagan making God into his own image. Jesus clearly spoke of marriage and sex in terms of male and female, as God created them. That this "minister" claims not to know this, but bases his false teachings on his own "experiences" with homosexuals shows that he does not follow Jesus's words and so he is not a Christian.
As Jesus said, "On the Last Day many will say, 'Lord, Lord, did we not teach in Your name?"" Then I will plainly tell them, "I never knew you. Away with you, you evildoers.'" (Matt.7:22,23)


10 posted on 08/05/2006 7:12:06 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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I never saw a church 'reject gays' they are always welcome to come and sit in the pews and hear the sermons.

They just cannot make up the sermon to suit their own sexual habits

11 posted on 08/05/2006 7:20:37 AM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975 <--no such thing as a fairtax)
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Ka-ching! Ka-ching!

The Rev. Don Hanway, who retired in 2003 after 22 years as rector of St. Mark’s on the Campus Episcopal Church, offers a thoughtful and well-reasoned view on this volatile topic in his book “A Theology of Gay and Lesbian Inclusion” ($14.95, Haworth Press). Subtitled “Love Letters to the Church,”

12 posted on 08/05/2006 8:03:06 AM PDT by BikerGold (Blogs Are Destroying Christian/Conservatives)
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I say we welcome in compulsive gamblers, heroin addicts, illegal immigrants, Pimps etc

As you welcome them in, please give them the mandate that Jesus did, "Go and sin no more."

13 posted on 08/05/2006 10:56:29 AM PDT by FJ290
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Acts 20:29-31: "I know this, that after my departure, savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves. Therefore watch, and remember that for three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears."


14 posted on 08/05/2006 9:00:10 PM PDT by franky (Pray for the souls of the faithful departed.)
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Jesus had no need to mention homosexual sex or other perverse behavior. As an Orthodox Jew He would have followed the Torah teachings on these matters. Jesus affirm God's plan of one man and one woman bonded together in life long matrimony. He makes no allowances for fornicators either heterosexual or homosexual.

Yes His statement on marriage was in reference to the practice of divorce. But His condemnation of divorce was based on the prmise for one to divorce and remarry was the same as commiting adultry. ( I know there are Christian churches which believe this is not always the case).

In His discourse Jesus holds the listeners to a standard higher than the contemporary cultural norm. He knew that men acted against their wives because of the hardness of their hearts and He was having none of it. So if He sets a higher standard for the legitimate expression of sexuality why would He then lower the standard for illegitmate, corrupt expressions of sexuality? The idea is way too contradictory to give credence.

Jesus is always life affirming and homosexual sex is certainly not life affirming. It is not possible to have the very one who said I am the life declare anything which by its very nature is a denial of the life affirming biology of male and female union, as good. Just ain't gonna happen. I trust the Truth of God not the agenda of the GLBTQ elite. No matter what type of collar they wear.


15 posted on 08/05/2006 9:53:50 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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Hanway is convinced that same-sex orientation is not a lifestyle choice, but a basic part of a person over which he or she has no control. “Most of the gay people I know have discovered that they were gay; they didn’t choose to be gay,” he said. “Why would anyone decide to be gay?

This is characteristic of the kind of pablum which passes for reason on too many campuses today. Anecdotal supposition, devoid of facts, ending with a question meant to be rhetorical, rather than a conclusion based on intelligent ordering of information.

Most of the alcoholics I know didn't choose to be drunks, either. Why would they decide to be addicted? They just liked to drink. Guess it was merely a basic part of who they were, so we should just accept them as such.

16 posted on 08/06/2006 9:07:51 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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Rev 2: "21": And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.

SODOMY IS FORNICATION.


17 posted on 08/06/2006 9:42:29 AM PDT by tessalu
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18 posted on 08/06/2006 5:22:30 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | Appeasement is Capitulation is Suicide)
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St. Mark’s on the Campus Episcopal Church

That tells you all you need to know right there.

Campus priests are absolutely the most screaming liberal loons of their denomination, whatever it is . . . and since this is an Episcopal campus priest, he's out there in orbit somewhere beyond Pluto . . .

19 posted on 08/06/2006 5:27:45 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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Gay people are not asking the church for a license to be promiscuous or engage in risky sexual behavior, he said. Rather, they want the church’s blessing on committed relationships with a loving partner, just as heterosexual couples do.

HORSEFEATHERS!!!! As "gay" activists themselves have said, the goal of same-sex "marriage" or "blessed unions" is to make homosexuality "normal" and "accepted" in the general society!!!! A vanishingly small number of gaysbians intend to get "married", as shown by the small numbers in Massachusetts, for example. But "gay marriage" legitmates homosexuality in general, including promiscuity.

Gaysbian activists also intend to neutralize and/or destroy orthodox Christian churches with their bogus ideologies, again with the goal of making homosexulaity "normal" in the general society, and making any opposition a "hate crime".

As for Jesus, he did say plainly that man-woman marriage has always been God's plan. 'Nuff said about homosexuality! And Paul clearly knew the Greek theories (such as Plato's) that gaysbians were "born that way". So this cracked Episcopal "priest's" tired (and often repeated by many, many others) arguments don't hold water one bit!!!!

20 posted on 08/07/2006 9:22:03 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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