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Anglicans 'are close to anarchy' in dispute over female bishop
VirtueOnline-News ^ | 6/20/2006 | Ruth Gledhill and James Bone

Posted on 06/20/2006 5:43:46 PM PDT by sionnsar

THE Anglican Church descended into "ecclesiastical anarchy" last night as American traditionalists refused to accept the authority of a woman and asked the Archbishop of Canterbury to lead them instead.

Liberals celebrated the election of Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori as Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church while the traditionalist Fort Worth Diocese appealed to Dr Rowan Williams for "alternative primatial oversight".

The appeal, being mulled over at Lambeth Palace, is expected to be the first of several. It represents the first formal step towards a schism that evangelicals say began with the consecration of the openly gay Gene Robinson as Bishop of New Hampshire in 2003.

The crisis was heightened as resolutions being debated over gays fell short of the "repentance" and "moratoria" demanded by the Windsor Report set up by Dr Williams. One well-placed conservative source said: "We are in uncharted waters. The Church is descending into anarchy."

Last night representatives of the Episcopal Church rejected suggestions that they broke with the worldwide Anglican Communion when they elected Bishop Robinson. In its first action, the 843-member House of Deputies rejected language expressing regret for "breaching the proper constraints of the bonds of affection" by his election. Instead, the deputies approved wording expressing regret merely for "straining" the bonds of affection with the Anglican Communion.

Dr Williams issued a guarded welcome to the new Presiding Bishop, referring to the difficulties the election represents for Anglicans. "I send my greetings to Bishop Katharine and she has my prayers and good wishes as she takes up a deeply demanding position at a critical time," he said. Bishop Schori will be instituted in November.

Bishop Schori told CNN yesterday that she did not believe homosexuality was a sin, adding: "I believe that God creates us with different gifts."

Fort Worth is one of three US dioceses not to accept women priests. These and a further seven evangelical dioceses belong to a network of orthodox parishes and dioceses that represent 10 per cent of the US Episcopal Church.

If Dr Williams agreed to provide alternative oversight and the entire American Anglican Network followed, there would be two Anglican Churches within the US. Both would be in communion with the Archbishop of Canterbury, although not with each other.

The crunch point would come at the 2008 Lambeth Conference, when both would be asked to sign up to a unifying "covenant" designed to prevent splits and actions in the future.

Officials at the US Episcopal Church have requested that it be known by its legal name of the Episcopal Church rather than the acronym ECUSA, as it represents 16 nations, not only the US. Speaking to The Times, Bishop Jack Iker, of Fort Worth, said: "We would like to be accountable to a bishop of the orthodox faith who shares our theology and perspective."

There was heated debate at the convention as resolutions on gay bishops came up for vote. The House of Deputies was due to take up a revised proposal that came close to calling for a moratorium on the consecration of gay bishops. Gay activists called that proposal "unacceptable".

THE SPLIT

1998 Lambeth Conference rejects homosexual practice as "incompatible with scripture" and advises against the "legitimising or blessing of same-sex unions" and of "ordaining those involved in same-gender unions"

2003 Vicky Imogene "Gene" Robinson, an openly gay father of two, is consecrated Bishop of New Hampshire. Archbishop of Canterbury sets up Lambeth Commission

2004 Commission publishes Windsor Report, which calls for repentance from US church and moratoria on future gay consecrations and same-sex blessings

2006 ECUSA, at its General Convention in Columbus, Ohio, decides that it will in future be known as the Episcopal Church, prompting theories that it is preparing to become an alternative, liberal Anglican Communion. Episcopal Church elects first woman, Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori, as Presiding Bishop, equal in status to an archbishop. Delegates come close to fighting as they debate how far to go in complying with Windsor

2007 Archbishop of Canterbury will issue invitations to Lambeth Conference. He must decide whether or not to invite Bishop Robinson and any of the bishops who were consecrated. Bishop Schori voted for the election of Robinson but did not take part in his consecration

2008 Lambeth Conference will meet in the summer, when bishops and archbishops will agree either to "walk apart" or find a way of remaining in communion


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KEYWORDS: anglicans; ecusa; fallout; femalebishop; jeffertsschori; radicalfeminists; schism; uk
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[Not sure who wrote this (it doesn't sound like Ruth Gledhill's usual informed analysis, and for that matter the headline is not quite right either), but I disagree with the following: "there would be two Anglican Churches within the US. Both would be in communion with the Archbishop of Canterbury, although not with each other." As if "communion" was church-speak for "friendship" -- but maybe "communion" got re-defined along with "is." --sionnsar]
1 posted on 06/20/2006 5:43:48 PM PDT by sionnsar
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2 posted on 06/20/2006 5:44:45 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0urs)
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To: sionnsar

"Both would be in communion with the Archbishop of Canterbury, although not with each other."

This would make sense if the dispute is only over procedural/territorial type issues.

If it is over issues of faith and morals, then it does not make sense.


3 posted on 06/20/2006 5:55:00 PM PDT by Agrarian
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To: Agrarian

You are right it doesn't make sense (though these are the Anglicans we're talking about, so why should it make sense?).

OTOH, on matters of faith, there was a brief period when Antioch and Alexandria were out of communion with each other, though both in communion with both Rome and Constantinople, during the Partiarchate of St. Cyril of Alexandria.

And, the current schism of Rome from the Orthodox--over matters of both order (azymes) and faith (the filioque) began as a local schism between Rome and Constantinople, with both still in communion with Antioch, Alexandria and Jersualem, until the Crusaders imposed Latin bishops on sees with sitting Orthodox bishops.


4 posted on 06/20/2006 6:13:43 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: All

I mean this in utmost Christian charity: Would you just give up and become Catholic already?! I can't tell you how painful it is to watch the Anglican Communion rot away.


5 posted on 06/20/2006 6:14:19 PM PDT by Squire of St. Michael
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To: sionnsar

Feminists in every profession are going to wear the britches, and everyone had just better get used to it. Zaftig women crashing ceilings of every kind.


6 posted on 06/20/2006 6:19:36 PM PDT by Twinkie (Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.)
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To: Squire of St. Michael
The apostate Episcopalian church does provide the Catholic Church an avenue to get rid of its own liberals. On the DU Web site, several former Catholics who are now Episcopalians said they were proud of their denomination's pro-homosexual stand.

The modern day Episcopal Church, USA, offers all of the liturgy and none of the morality of Catholicism.

7 posted on 06/20/2006 6:46:18 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Squire of St. Michael
Bingo. We made the decision in August 2003 right after the General Convention that confirmed Vicki Gene, were received into the Catholic church around Memorial Day 2004.

Best decision we ever made. Now my interest in this controversy is mostly academic (though laced with a tiny bit of nostalgia of an ugly kind . . . :-( )

8 posted on 06/20/2006 6:52:13 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Wallace T.; Squire of St. Michael
That works for me.

Let the folks who like the ceremony and the vestments and the beautiful old buildings and the stained glass . . . but nothing else . . . have the ECUSA.

9 posted on 06/20/2006 6:54:00 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Squire of St. Michael
I can't tell you how painful it is to watch the Anglican Communion rot away.

The Anglican Communion is not rotting away. Liberals have slowly but surely taken over the leadership positions in the Episcopal Church, in much the same way they have taken over most of the administrative and teaching positions in the univerities and colleges in America. The two phenomena are related.

The Episcopal Church is not the entire Anglican Communion, but only a small part of it. The Anglican Communion will survive. The Episcopal Church will simply splinter off. Those in the Episcopal Church who wish to continue being Anglicans will find some other way to remain a part of the Anglican Communion.

As for pain, you don't have to go looking for it. Life brings it in many forms. But pain doesn't define what is most important about living. And it won't define what is most important about the Anglican Communion.

10 posted on 06/20/2006 7:15:12 PM PDT by stripes1776
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To: The_Reader_David; LibreOuMort; Kolokotronis; Agrarian; MarMema
You are right it doesn't make sense (though these are the Anglicans we're talking about, so why should it make sense?).

"Ye shall know them by their fruits." (Mat 7:16) Thank you for the quite honest, explicit and object lesson in Orthodox charity, Reader David -- now I will proceed to re-think everything that I thought I had learned about Orthodoxy.

(s) an Anglican, who apparently makes no sense

11 posted on 06/20/2006 7:24:43 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0urs)
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To: stripes1776

Schism is a part of Christian history. The way the Church of the Holy Sepulchar is divded up is a reflection of the many divisions among Christians. The Episcopal Church is now just another small, liberal denomination.


12 posted on 06/20/2006 7:26:00 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: stripes1776

Actually pain may define what is most important about living...


13 posted on 06/20/2006 7:28:03 PM PDT by WriteOn (Truth)
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To: RobbyS
The Episcopal Church is now just another small, liberal denomination.

Yes, exactly, although it will take a few more years before the formal break with the larger Anglican Communion takes place. Traditional prelates in the Anglican Communion are very patient people, more patient than myself. They will give their respected opposition all the rope they want to hang themselves, and then the formalities will be completed.

14 posted on 06/20/2006 7:38:23 PM PDT by stripes1776
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To: WriteOn
Actually pain may define what is most important about living...

I hope you don't wash your hair shirt. The smell will increase the discomfort. And it will give you much prestige as a victim.

15 posted on 06/20/2006 7:45:17 PM PDT by stripes1776
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To: sionnsar

Come now. I'm an ex-Anglican. I've seen it from inside. Henry's 'reformation' is a glorious might-have-been, but the Elizabethan Settlement of Religion, with its emphasis on unformity of form without uniformity of doctrine laid the ground work for the current disaster. Sure there was a series of bright moments, when the light of the Holy Spirit shone on Anglicanism--the Caroline Divines are closer to the phrenoma of the Orthodox Church as anything in the West post-schism, the non-Jurors almost 'got it', the Oxford Movement, Bishop Grafton's negotiations with St. Tikhon, even the inclusion of the anaphora of St. Basil the Great as a option in the '79 BCP--but all came to naught because Elizabeth, to establish her state on a rock, built her national church on sand.

Once the House of Bishops decided in the case of the anti-trinitarian Bishop Pike that 'heresy is no longer a relevant category' is was really over. If heresy isn't a relevant category, neither is truth.

I was jibing at the nonsense that passes for sense in the official Anglican Communion. I used to agree with Father Andrew of St. Michael's Skete that the Continuing Anglican groups which have dropped the filioque and declared fealty to the Faith of the Seven Councils are the only Western confessions worth having an ecumenical dialog with--used to until the Latins elected Pope Benedict, now they're worth talking to, too, though it will be a much harder road.


16 posted on 06/20/2006 8:38:55 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: sionnsar
Sad to see the death throes of a great church that was the foundation of both England & America,depart from her do not be a partaker of her sins.We are commanded to faithfulness but we are also command to separate ourselves from sin,but always being available to assist sinners.
Sadly the Scottish church in America has fallen into apostasy as well.
17 posted on 06/20/2006 9:36:54 PM PDT by bonehead4freedom (Borders like fences make for good neighbors!)
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To: The_Reader_David; sionnsar

I agree to a point, but would have said it about ECUSA, rather than Anglicans as a whole vis a vis the current troubles.

The problem is that there aren't many Anglicans (in the sense that I thought of myself as an Anglican, and that I suspect you did, at one point, as well) in ECUSA anymore, and there haven't been for several decades.


18 posted on 06/20/2006 9:49:02 PM PDT by Agrarian
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To: sionnsar

Bishop Schori told CNN yesterday that she did not believe homosexuality was a sin, adding: "I believe that God creates us with different gifts."

My goodness! An abomination is a gift?


19 posted on 06/20/2006 10:02:51 PM PDT by mckenzie7 (Parenthood is a gift)
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To: AnAmericanMother

I have a kindred spirit in "Mother" - seems we're leading parallel lives. One small exception, however...on my way to the Catholic Church, I had a short layover in a Continuing Anglican denomination (which shall remain nameless out of Christian charity). Best I can say is that it was better than remaining in that morass that is ECUSA, but the fundamental flaw in ECUSA is also a fundamental flaw in the Continuing churches. IMHO that flaw is the autonomous Bishop - answerable to no one - out of communion with everyone except his own flock - & equally prone to error (albeit of a different kind than ECUSA Bishops). If I had it to do again, I would skip the side trip into the Continuum & go straight to Rome (or one of the Orthodox Churches) & authentic catholicism.


20 posted on 06/21/2006 12:31:21 AM PDT by torqemada ("Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!")
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