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To: Full Court

David Cloud is a good example of the kind of Christianity of which the Pharisees would be proud. He demonstrates his love for God by preaching hatred for his brothers on a daily basis.


5 posted on 04/25/2006 6:27:05 PM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Campion
He's just part of this big 'ol world of diversity ~ although I doubt the peddlers of that particular doctrine ever imagined him.

I'm digesting this ~ their basic theology seems a bit at odds with traditional Baptist theology, and more along the lines of Faith Assembly/Church of the First Born ~ see my bio statement ~ but even those guys are not that exclusionary ~ even do religious things on Christmas Eve for example.

I believe the attack on Billy Graham arises out of Graham's fame and not anything in particular he might ever had said. In fact, some of the "beliefs" they claim are Graham's are referenced back to church letters (hardly a source of doctrine), or they quote others.

Not to worry, the Great Mandala moves on and Billy 'll be right back, so donch'a worry none 'bout him.

9 posted on 04/25/2006 6:31:13 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: Campion

I think that about sums it up.


20 posted on 04/25/2006 6:41:40 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper (..it takes some pretty serious yodeling to..filibuster from a five star ski resort in the Swiss Alps)
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To: Campion
You may or may not have points against David Cloud. I wouldn't know. But the issue is not him -- it's Billy Graham. Surely some of those things shock you. Perhaps the Catholic emphasis bothers you -- so ignore that. What about the rest? How about his embracing of liberal churches, etc? He has reduced the Christian common denominator to include even those who do not believe. Being "nice" seems to be his only solid requirement, and even that is iffy. You must be bad to the degree of Hitler to deserve hell.

This is the end result of ecumenism. It destroys everyone involved because it forces them to give up the distinctives that define them until their faith is in nothing at all. And it has no defense against heresy and false doctrines which we are instructed to guard ourselves against. Lies and truth become equal.

208 posted on 04/26/2006 9:14:56 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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