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Outcome-based Episcopal Math: Are 11 Conservatives Less Diverse than 5 Liberals?
Stand Firm ^ | 2/20/2006 | Douglas LeBlanc

Posted on 02/26/2006 3:37:55 PM PST by sionnsar

The Diocese of Albany will elect a bishop coadjutor on March 25, and Albany Via Media's website has claimed that the process "severely limits the roles of the clergy and laity," producing "no candidates who are of a more moderate, Episcopal positioning."

For a superior way of nominating a bishop, Albany Via Media cites the work of what it calls a "real diocese": California. The Diocese of California will elect the successor to Bishop William Swing on May 6, and comments already have ensued at titusonenine.


Albany Via Media vice president Robert Dodd wrote early on that Albany's "fast track" would not allow time for electors to meet the candidates in person. (As Via Media's site now acknowledges, Albany's standing committee somehow found time to schedule [PDF] two "meet the candidates" days).

One of Dodd's more peculiar arguments is that declining to designate a nominating committee "severely limits the roles of the clergy and laity."

In November 2003 I wrote a cover story for Episcopal Life about how dioceses nominate their bishops. That story mentioned how the dioceses of Texas and West Texas have relied on processes similar to the one now being used by Albany. While the majority of dioceses prefer nominating committees, there's nothing inherently non-Episcopal or unrepresentative about the choices of Texas, West Texas, and Albany.

When it elected a coadjutor in 2003, West Texas chose from 12 "potential nominees." The electing convention for Albany will choose from 11 nominees. Members of the Diocese of California will choose from five.

Via Media also is clearly concerned that no candidates to its liking are among the 11 nominees.

In a letter posted on Via Media's website, Richard Angelo mocks the nomination of Tory Baucum, a associate professor at Asbury Theological Seminary and an associate international minister for Alpha International and Holy Trinity Brompton:

I am curious as to why we need to cross the ocean (not [that] Dr Baucum is a resident of England) to find a Bishop and in addition why we see no candidates who are of a more moderate, Episcopal positioning.

Certainly, we may possibly know the answer to these questions. The Diocese just can't seem to find someone in the "Episcopal" Church that suits [it]. Why not get Pat Robertson on the list also? (just joking but the way we are going who knows.)

Tory Baucum has never renounced his ordination vows as an Episcopal priest, but because of his affiliation with Holy Trinity Brompton he's compared to Pat Robertson. Oh, that "more moderate, Episcopal" sense of humor!

Apparently not even Marshall Vang [PDF], dean of the Cathedral of All Saints, qualifies as a "more moderate, Episcopal" voice, although Via Media describes the cathedral as "a welcoming community."

This sense of being excluded is not unique to liberals in conservative dioceses. As I wrote in a sidebar to the Episcopal Life story,

Evangelicals, meanwhile, point out that they sometimes do not enjoy even a token presence on some diocesan slates. "In a conservative diocese, groups often work against a person perceived to be too liberal," Kevin Martin wrote in his critique of episcopal searches. "(In liberal dioceses, conservatives never make it out of a search committee anyway.)"

In Iowa, Kansas, Milwaukee, New Hampshire, New Jersey, and Oregon, conservative evangelicals would not have found committee-nominated candidates who clearly stood with them on the most contentious issues of gay ordination or blessing same-sex unions. As with female nominees, though, committee members said they believed they kept their choices fair.

"I don't think we were looking for a liberal or a conservative candidate. We were looking for candidates who would lead us in conversation about the issues facing the church," said [Deacon Warren] Frelund of Iowa. The Rev. David P. Jones of Concord, N.H. [chairman of the nominating committee that proposed Gene Robinson], self-identifies as an evangelical, but said he believes the committee he helped lead presented a slate that represented the identity of the diocese.

"Why choose a severe evangelical for the slate? That would be clergy abuse," he said.

Albany and California have taken two very different routes to choosing their bishops. Both bishops-elect will require consents from General Convention in June. Both slates will be criticized for being too limited or -- despite the assurances of Tom Schultz, OHC, in California -- influenced by church politics.

Still, it takes a powerful imagination to conclude that a slate of 11 nominees not screened by a committee is somehow less representative or fair than five committee-approved nominees. I'll leave it to readers to decide whether California's six questions or Albany's 17 questions seek more details about the nominees' theology, leadership styles, or thoughts on the Episcopal Church's divisions.



TOPICS: Mainline Protestant
KEYWORDS: ecusa

1 posted on 02/26/2006 3:37:57 PM PST by sionnsar
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2 posted on 02/26/2006 3:39:14 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Libs: Celebrate MY diversity! | Iran Azadi 2006)
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To: sionnsar
QUITE a contrast in the list of questions.

Albany is in fact serious about finding out what the candidates think about major theological and leadership issues. The California questions are touchy-feely gobbledegook, which will be answered with more of the same.

3 posted on 02/26/2006 4:44:01 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother
That is quite a contrast, isn't it!

One wonders if Albany has used these questions before. "Typewritten"? (Yes, we still have two typewriters in the house, in storage -- and far more printers than that...)

4 posted on 02/26/2006 5:05:59 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Libs: Celebrate MY diversity! | Iran Azadi 2006)
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To: sionnsar
I have THREE typewriters - a Smith-Corona electric, an Royal manual portable (how about that!) and a strange hybrid that could plug into an Apple II computer . . . or type on its own.

The Royal was my mom's at college in the 1940s. It still works fine - finding ribbons however is a bit of a problem.

What I would really like is one of the tiny Olympia portables that my German teacher had . . . with a German keyboard.

5 posted on 02/26/2006 5:46:19 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother
...with a German keyboard.

Aggh! I have dealt with German computer keyboards, and found them really difficult for typing English e-mail. Maybe I just needed more practice...

6 posted on 02/26/2006 6:19:13 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Libs: Celebrate MY diversity! | Iran Azadi 2006)
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To: sionnsar
It's those funny letters . .. you get used to them.

Could the keyboard have been one of those awful Dvorak keyboards? I can't STAND them - don't care how efficient they're supposed to be, I learned on QWERTY and I'm at almost 100 wpm, I'm not going to start over and I'm not sure my fingers can relearn a new system . . .

7 posted on 02/26/2006 7:06:01 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

It's not the "funny letters", it's the layout. Totally unlike an English keyboard; I recall hunting hard for some essential character, such as @ or /.


8 posted on 02/27/2006 5:18:41 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Libs: Celebrate MY diversity! | Iran Azadi 2006)
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To: sionnsar
There isn't an @ key. You have to hit the right alt key, then Q.

And the Z and Y are swapped.

I never used @ because my teacher's portable was WAY before the internet, and actually before computers - at least anything smaller or more complicated than a PDP-8 . . .

9 posted on 02/27/2006 6:17:00 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Must have been the @ character then. The key sequence was not obvious, I probably copied the character from somewhere, thè wáy Î dïd thiß. Swapped letters were less of a problem: I was never a touch-typist, more of an advanced hunt-n-pecker, but moving the keys around did slow me down a lot.


10 posted on 02/27/2006 6:27:33 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Libs: Celebrate MY diversity! | Iran Azadi 2006)
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