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Republic of Utica 2/2/06
2/2/06 | Cato Uticensis

Posted on 02/02/2006 9:19:56 PM PST by Cato Uticensis

Thursday, February 02, 2006

Where I disagree with the President

President Bush spoke at a Prayer Breakfast Thursday morning. He had some good things to say and I didn't catch them all. But one thing he said that I have to differ with him on is his statement about Atheists. He said that people who choose no Faith at all are just as American as those of Faith. I cannot agree.

Now, don't get me wrong, an Atheist can be a patriotic American, although all too many are nothing of the kind. An Atheist can have the best of intentions for America in his heart. But then again, I am sure that another Atheist, Pol Pot, had the best of intentions for Cambodia in his heart when he first became a Communist.

An Atheist American, while quite possibly a very loyal one, lacks the capacity to fully appreciate America and its origins. Part of America's bedrock principles are those of John Locke. For the uninitiated, John Locke was a hard core Calvinist who was a part of the Glorious Revolution in England in 1688. This revolution had Calvinism as its driving force. Locke and his fellow revolutionaries would be called Right Wing religious extremists by the modern Secular Left.

In his treatises on government, Locke destroyed arguments for the Divine Right of Kings. He used nothing but Scripture as his source. If one could put his beliefs into a nutshell they would be "God makes men free, other men make men slaves."

This is reflected in our Declaration of Independence when it talks about how we are endowed certain rights by our Creator. From the very beginning, America acknowledges that our freedoms are Gifts bestowed on us from God. They are not priviliges begrudgingly allowed by Left Wing bureaucrats or jurists. The self-appointed, unelected Soviet Kommissars of the ACLU tried to ban Steve Williams from teaching about the Declaration of Independence in Cupertino, California in 2004. This is my point. An Atheist who wants to tell a teacher he can't teach the Declaration of Independence because it mentions God is no American, does not have the foggiest idea of what America is about.

When God led the children of Israel out of Egypt, he set them up under a group of judges, led by the Holy Spirit, who ruled with a light hand. The people were free, had free speech, freedom of assembly, freedom to live life in whatever lawful manner they chose. But in the days of Samuel, the Israelites clamored for a King. They saw how the Canaanites and the Philistines had Kings and wanted one too. God warned them that the king would draft their sons into the Army, would levy heavy taxes and corvee upon them and demand unquestioned obedience. The people didn't care. They rejected the God-given freedom for the stylish ways of pagan peoples. After three kings, Saul, David and then Solomon, the people had had enough. They demanded that the new King, Rehoboam, lighten their burdens. But he responded that his thumb would be thicker than his father's(Solomon's) thigh and that where his father had chastised them with whips, he would chastise them with scorpions.

And so it is with our Secularist Left today. They reject the God given freedoms of our US Constitution. They look longingly and lovingly on Socialist Dictatorships and Oligarchies in Eurasia and Africa, and that is their heart's desire. Not to be free, but to be slaves of someone who hates freedom.

The Founding Fathers knew that God was the real author of our freedom. They did not lead the French Revolution, which was secular and created a tyranny that made the Bourbon Kingship look like a rosy paradise by comparison. They feared the rise of a big bureaucracy and people who put their Party Line over God's Will.

In the Preamble to the Constitution, it says that its purpose is to "Secure the BLESSINGS of Liberty." In 1789, the term "Blessing" meant one thing only- a Gift from God. It did not have the more generic meaning it does today. They left referrences to the Almighty rather vague, so as not favor one denomination over another, but that did not mean America was ever godless. Article III of the Northwest Ordinance, written in the same month as the Constitution and enforced under the same, said "Religion and Morality would be forever encouraged." So much for "separation of Church and State" a phrase from the Soviet Constitution, nowhere to be found in the American.

No, the Athiest cannot appreciate these elementary basics of the US Constitution. And Atheist Activists twist America's Constitution into downright Marxism, the exact opposite of what it was intended to be. To be Atheist prevents someone from fully appreciating America and what it is to be American. I disagree with the president.


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1 posted on 02/02/2006 9:19:57 PM PST by Cato Uticensis
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To: Alamo-Girl; Publius; Sabramerican

Good Day from the Republic of Utica, friends!


2 posted on 02/02/2006 9:21:49 PM PST by Cato Uticensis
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To: Cato Uticensis
An Atheist American, while quite possibly a very loyal one, lacks the capacity to fully appreciate America and its origins.

Amazingly enough, this is what they used to say about Catholics, Chinese, Jews, blacks, Irish, Germans, etc.

3 posted on 02/02/2006 9:23:27 PM PST by SedVictaCatoni (<><)
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To: Cato Uticensis

Thanks for the ping!


4 posted on 02/02/2006 10:00:07 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: SedVictaCatoni

Well, I've outlined exactly why I make my statement. America was founded upon Judeo-Christian principles. to attack the Judeo-Christian principles upon which America was founded is to attack America. The ACLU attacks everything America stands for, as well as other groups like it. Catholics and Jews, on the other hand, never launched any such attacks against American freedom. Jews contributed to the founding of this country and one of the thirteen colonies, Maryland, was predominantly Catholic.

Do you like having Atheist Activists dictating to you how you will live like a bunch of Soviet Kommissars? I sure don't. What they do in Unamerican and Anti-American.


5 posted on 02/02/2006 10:13:50 PM PST by Cato Uticensis
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To: Cato Uticensis
Hate to break it to ya pal, but the ACLU ain't just atheists. It's also pinko pro-gay west coast Methodists, pseudo-Christian pro-communist Catholics, and ultra liberal Jews.

Attacking one group for being part of the ACLU without attacking the others is a just a cheap attack against atheists and a cop out in regards to religious traitors in the ACLU.

Freep-on.
6 posted on 02/02/2006 10:47:55 PM PST by Hexenhammer ( Oregon: She dies by her own prescriptions)
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To: Hexenhammer

you're right, Hexen, and what are the PSEUDO-Christians? The prefix "pseudo" means "false" or "pretend." Those Christians you list aren't even real Christians. As you yourself said, they are traitors. Barry Lynn (not ACLU, I know, but of the same ilk we are talking about) is one of the wolves in sheep's clothing spoken of in the Bible. What is a Christian who fights with people who hate Christianity?


7 posted on 02/03/2006 1:04:38 AM PST by Cato Uticensis
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