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Saint Pius X Fraternity seeks to regularize its canonical status and outlines detailed plan
Catholic News Agency ^ | January 31, 2006

Posted on 01/31/2006 1:37:57 PM PST by NYer

006 (CNA) - The Saint Pius X Fraternity and its superior general Bishop Fellay , are seeking the regularize their situation with the Holy See, in a declaration made by the same bishop on January 13th, and in comments to French newspaper La Croix.

According to the superior general, the Vatican would be willing to grant them a status of autonomy and the creation of a personal apostolic administration directly under the administration of of the Pope. The same has been done already in 2001-2002 in Campos, Brazil.

Bishop Fellay is confident this status will be granted to them, even though, he says, “we don’t want to be a catholic group aside. We don’t ask for the old mass just for us, but for all. But maybe we have to go through this transitory status.” 
 

An extensive comment and proposal has been made by the abbé Paul Aulignier, a priest of the fraternity, on his website “la revue Item” who enthusiastically welcomed such news and devised a detailed plan in order to fulfill this status. “We can only win in this situation,” says the priest, “We should really take this opportunity from Rome.”

Under these circumstances, Fr. Paul Aulignier outlines an extensive plan for this Apostolic Administration, in order to prepare the traditionalist group to reintegrate the Church. He values the success of a first similar experience in Brazil, noting this experience is not restricted to some few parishes but has extended to over 13 dioceses in that country.

In his draft, the Vatican would first recognize the validity of the old Ordo of Saint Pius V and would create a “Ordinariat of the Good Shepherd,” for the Latin liturgy. It would be a federation of Institutes and Works. They would be allowed to celebrate mass based on the old rite of Saint Pius V.

His draft gives the details of the administration of the Ordinariat, and would be a personal prelature of the Pope who would name a Cardinal Prefect.

This is just a draft imagined by a member of the fraternity, not an official document of the Vatican nor the Saint Pius X Fraternity.

The whole document is available in French at the following:
http://la.revue.item.free.fr/regard_monde230106.htm


TOPICS: Activism; Apologetics; Catholic; Current Events; Ecumenism; General Discusssion; History; Ministry/Outreach; Prayer; Religion & Culture; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: pope; sspxfellay; vatican

1 posted on 01/31/2006 1:38:01 PM PST by NYer
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To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...

Un regard sur l’actualité politique et religieuse

Au 24 janvier 2006

N°75

Par Monsieur l’abbé Paul Aulagnier

 

 

Une administration apostolique personnelle

du « Saint Sauveur » .

Projet !

 

 

 

 

On sait maintenant, depuis le vendredi 13 janvier dernier, selon les déclarations de Mgr Fellay, Supérieur général de la FSSPX, faites à la presse, que les autorités romaines,  qui ont la charge du dossier, en particulier, le cardinal Castrillon Hoyos, seraient presque prêtes de «régulariser » la situation canonique de la FSSPX dans le sein de l’Eglise, en lui « accordant » un « statut d’autonomie », - mesurez l’importance de la chose - et qu’à cet effet, elles envisageraient très sérieusement la création d’ « une administration apostolique personnelle comme celle créée en 2001-2002 , à Campos (Brésil).

READ MORE

2 posted on 01/31/2006 1:40:37 PM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: NYer

Wow! Let's pray that Our Lady, especially under her title of the Immaculate Conception; St. Joseph, the Patron and Protector and the Universal Church; Pope St. Pius V, the promulgator of the Tridentine missal; and Pope St. Pius X, interceded for the Church Militant, that this works out. But as in all things, God's will be done!


3 posted on 01/31/2006 1:54:37 PM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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To: Pyro7480

I pray that this will work out as well, as hopefully it will, with a little good will from all sides.


4 posted on 01/31/2006 2:01:50 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: NYer

The author seems a bit confused. Fr. Aulagnier was kicked out of the SSPX a few years back.


5 posted on 01/31/2006 2:25:30 PM PST by gbcdoj (Let us ask the Lord with tears, that according to his will so he would shew his mercy to us Jud 8:17)
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To: gbcdoj; NYer
The following article talks about this: http://frat.canalhistorique.free.fr/eng/eng20040918_vere.htm
6 posted on 01/31/2006 2:29:31 PM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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7 posted on 01/31/2006 6:43:36 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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To: NYer

Answered Prayers!!!!


8 posted on 01/31/2006 7:05:41 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: NYer

praying-this-happens bumpus ad summum


9 posted on 01/31/2006 7:13:19 PM PST by Dajjal
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To: Domestic Church

Wonderful!


10 posted on 01/31/2006 7:36:31 PM PST by steve86 (@)
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To: NYer

What would this do to the Traditional Latin Mass Aposolates (or whatever they are called!!) which have already come into legitimate existance within The Church since Ecclesia Dei?? I am referring to groups like FSSP, and The Institute of Christ the King, Sovereign Priest.

Would they all be folded into one umbrella organization, along with SSPX, and report directly to the Pope (and hopefully have a Universal Indult)?? Or would something else happen??


11 posted on 02/01/2006 12:37:01 AM PST by Zetman (This secret to simple and inexpensive cold fusion intentionally left blank.)
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To: Zetman

Why wouldn't they be allowed to continue as they are? After all, I think there are at least 12 or 13 such groups of different types.


12 posted on 02/01/2006 12:42:17 AM PST by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: NYer
Well, I am sure this is perfectly reliable. The SSPX is the most reliable source to frame the Magisterium's intent. Right.

Now, when this supposed deal falls through, as it will, the SSPX will blame "liberal" Rome.

This is such an obvious agitprop campaign to stir-up the gullible schismatics and further anchor them to the schism once Rome "reneges" on the deal the SSPX tels us is imminent while, at the same time, enticing faithful Catholics to extend sympathy towards the schismatics and weaken the fealty to the Magisterium because Rome is so obstinate in their rejection of Traditon and the poor SSPX just wants the Mass your Mommy went to, don' cha know.

13 posted on 02/01/2006 4:06:49 AM PST by bornacatholic
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To: NYer
According to the superior general, the Vatican would be willing to grant them a status of autonomy and the creation of a personal apostolic administration directly under the administration of of the Pope.

Great news!

14 posted on 02/01/2006 4:44:29 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Zetman; nickcarraway
Would they all be folded into one umbrella organization, along with SSPX, and report directly to the Pope (and hopefully have a Universal Indult)?? Or would something else happen??

I think nick's right..they will almost certainly stay as they are. There's really no reason for the FSSP or the ICK to be folded into the Society, and nothing says that all the traditional groups have to be folded under the same umbrella.

Diocesan entities such as ours will undoubtedly continue as they are.

However, I can foresee some bishops hostile to tradition using the argument that, well, since folks can go to the SSPX now, we don't NEED an indult in our diocese. Let's hope not tho.

15 posted on 02/01/2006 9:34:09 AM PST by Claud
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To: Claud
However, I can foresee some bishops hostile to tradition using the argument that, well, since folks can go to the SSPX now, we don't NEED an indult in our diocese. Let's hope not tho.

That is why a part of this "deal" will also have to be the Universal Indult.
16 posted on 02/01/2006 1:58:26 PM PST by Zetman (This secret to simple and inexpensive cold fusion intentionally left blank.)
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