[Dr. Eckleburg]

The important point here being we are not told to pray to the angels, but to God.

Contrary to Scripture, RCs are encouraged to...

PRAY TO YOUR GUARDIAN ANGEL

[1000 silverlings]

Well once again they are contrary to scripture for we are not to worship, and that means, pray to angels

Heb 1:4

Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

Heb 1:5

For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

Heb 1:7

And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.

Heb 1:13

But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand

[D-fendr]

Thanks for the reference. I read through it fairly quickly, but I think this portion applies most closely to the discussion of angel's awareness:

"This, indeed, I hold for certain, that each of us is cared for, not by one angel merely, but that all with one consent watch for our safety. For it is said of all the angels collectively, that they rejoice over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons which need no repentance."

It was in the context of whether each person has an angel "assigned." Calvin doesn't claim to know if this is certain, but his view is that if all are watching over us, having "just" one is not a superior claim.

Thanks again...

[D-fendr]

Oh.. forgot to add this point relevant to the discussion: From the quote that angels = "those in heaven" Calvin would seem to agree that Jesus wasn't speaking about the saints in heaven.

So, I guess I have to disagree with him on this point. But I bet he would have liked the movie anyway.