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To: annalex
Yes, Paul had preached before he was consecrated by "flesh and blood", -- but after Christ Himself sent him.

So then apostolic succession is "after the fact"? Someone just declares themself to be a Cardinal and everyone nod their head three years later? Is that how it works?

Lest you think this is limited to Paul, Apollos did exactly the same thing...

Seems the only qualification Apollos had was that he understood the scriptures, not the oral views of the Jerusalem Council. He was just a little confused in his theology and was corrected (again, not by the head of the church but by laypeople).
5,644 posted on 05/04/2006 5:09:28 PM PDT by HarleyD ("Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures" Luk 24:45)
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To: HarleyD
apostolic succession is "after the fact"? Someone just declares themself to be a Cardinal and everyone nod their head three years later?

Apostolic succession always follows a movement of the spirit in the consecrated person. In fact, there is much more than that, -- there are years of discernment in the seminary to become a priest, let alone bishop. Cardinals, by the way, have nothing to do with apostolic succession, they are merely bishops that are named by the Pope to be his close advisors.

Apollos did exactly the same thing

Maybe Apollos was ordained and the scripture does not mention it (it is not a church register) or maybe he remained a lay evangelist, of which we have many. I am a lay evangelist too, -- bite me.

5,696 posted on 05/05/2006 9:00:50 AM PDT by annalex
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