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To: 1000 silverlings
John 1:1 tells us that the Word, and that includes all of the Word was pre-existent of creation.

And of course, Moses and the people in the desert knew all of that...

true circumcision, as Jesus pointed out, is a change of heart and mind towards God. As usual, the Jews had a symbolic act for the real meaning.

Jesus said that - and we as Christians, hold to that command - but where is it WRITTEN??? Place yourself into the Jew of 50 AD's position. What is HE going to ask? "Where is it written that circumcision is done away with?" Nowhere. The concept of Circumcision's abolishment would be based on something....unwritten! What occured during Acts 15 should be quite obviously the death knell of Sola Scriptura. Christians practicing something NOT WRITTEN!

I am not arguing against the Christian position. I am arguing against Sola Scriptura and how it was NEVER practiced until Luther decided to make his own state church.

Regards

5,461 posted on 05/03/2006 9:40:47 AM PDT by jo kus (I will run the way of thy commandments, when thou shalt enlarge my heart...Psalm 119:32)
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To: jo kus; Dr. Eckleburg; Forest Keeper; qua; HarleyD
Jesus is the Word of God. All he ever taught was the Torah, also the Word of God. He appealed to the Torah whenever he was challenged, famously: It is written.

He taught a deeper, spiritual knowledge of the Torah. That is what is meant by "new wine in old bottles." If you put new wine (new Torah) into old ways (Pharisees, who liked their system better than God's) the old wine bottles explode. They can't handle it. You need new bottles, people with uncircumcized hearts, who love God to carry the new wine.

And yes, the Jews were aware of many things we aren't even aware of today. After all, they stood in God's Presence.

5,463 posted on 05/03/2006 9:51:21 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings
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